Oh, you mean the guy that tried to delete his thread because it had some criticism, yea I saved the original version prior to to delete/resurrection in PDF.RamJetFSJ wrote:My favorite was the guy with the school bus yellow Cherokee that used the axles from a JK with a long arm kit, swapped it all over (including a Hemi). Very nice work. There is a full build thread on IFSJA.
Oh it was 100% funded by Chrysler. He works for Chrysler. They brought it around to SEMA and a bunch of other shows to show what you can do with purchased parts.Tad wrote:Oh, you mean the guy that tried to delete his thread because it had some criticism, yea I saved the original version prior to to delete/resurrection in PDF.RamJetFSJ wrote:My favorite was the guy with the school bus yellow Cherokee that used the axles from a JK with a long arm kit, swapped it all over (including a Hemi). Very nice work. There is a full build thread on IFSJA.
I was not impressed.
If I had, oh let's say zeroK into it and a butt load of ChryCo support into it, I would have just stayed in bed.
Not saying it's not a worthy rig or he did not have some personal equity into it but let's be real about some of this.
Definitely don't have that sorta dough to throw down. The friend with the long arm ZJ is getting ready to part the rig out and build something else(WHY?) and my brother is looking to do a spring over on his '77 W/T. The thinking is that if both rigs are torn down anyways and if it can be done within reason and limitations of the budget, why not?Stuka wrote: Where the average joe builds the rig himself. Rather than buying 25k in parts and bolting it on.
JK's use 4 links front and rear. Up front is a partial triangulated and the rear is a parallel 4 link. Well, not a true parallel, but its similar. Lower arms are longer. Both use track bars for centering, so roll center is an issue for the rear (Easily correctable with various lift amounts). And steering/track bar geometry is very important. But also easily addressable.RamJetFSJ wrote:I probably wouldnt put a "stock" JK axle under it either, but it did lead me down a path where I found a truss system to add TJ/JK mounts to a Waggy front Dana 44, which would would make it pretty easy to add a JK 3 link style setup.
Nobody I know considers the track bar to be a link as it is not load bearing.pcoplin wrote:Wouldn't be bad, but would certainly have to notch the frame to clear the coilovers, and likely have to widen the track a couple inches.
I would also personally link it with coils and shocks. 3 link with trackbar front and dual triangulated rear. I would still notch the frame to fit a longer coil however...
Stucka, technically coiled Jeeps are 5 links.
Yeah it locates it laterally. So it does have some load, but not like the main control arms. Which is partly why they are so much smaller. If a track bar is considered a link, the only true 4 link is a double triangulated. And the only true 3 link is a radius arm or wish bone.pcoplin wrote:I've just read too many suspension design books.
But since is locates the entire axle, I'm pretty sure it bears the same compression/tension type loads the control arms do.
And my apologies about the name. The phone makes me lazy I guess...