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MacGyver welding

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I have never welded before but have done a lot of watching and reading. One of the AIR injection tube bolts on the '88 Wag of dad's I have snapped off during removal, despite copious amounts of soaking with PB Blaster. The other bolts on the driver side came out OK. The one that snapped is the one with the stud added on the end for the diverter valve bracket. The AIR system won't be going back on this Jeep.

My plan is to just grind it down smooth with my grinder and then weld the little hole shut and call it good. I'd like to take care of it myself and planned on using two car batteries in series and some jumper cables and a little piece of coat hanger wire (after sanding the coating off).

For this little job do you guys think this would be OK? I don't need perfect just no exhaust leak.
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I think the idea is sound. Since it is new territory, I recommend a spotter. :lol:
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Wear very thick gloves. ;)
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You are wanting to use two battery and a coat hanger w/out flux and you have not welded before???
It's going to be a tough job. I have used the coat hange with a ox/ac torch to weld, but not an arch
welder with a coat hanger. Good luck.
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Are you referring to the episode where he took a magnesium tubed bicycle and created a thermite torch :D I can't remember what he was doing but it must've been awsome.....

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If it still has something to grab onto I used the Bolt extractor on the right. That was the best option. If I had nothing to grab onto I used the EZ out in the left.
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fulsizjeep wrote:I think the idea is sound. Since it is new territory, I recommend a spotter. :lol:
Disclaimer: I had 2 Blue Moons before i wrote this. :roll:
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LOL can't go wrong with a spotter.. well can't ya.... I propose just getting some bolts the same size instead. Just use them to plug the holes. They exist, I have some but may need a washer. It's not an uncommon thread size.
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Thread the tiny hole and put a screw in with some high heat JB weld. Or get some tiny 6010 welding rods. Keep them in a dry plastic pop bottle afterwards so they don't absorb moisture from the air.
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Are you talking about welding the hole on the manifold itself? Cast iron is tricky, gotta get it HOT!

JB Weld probably won't work(been there done that) instead you want to use QuikSteel epoxy putty. Similar to JB Weld but so much better.

If you go for the MacGyver weld you're gonna need to rock the hair, afterall he was a Jeep guy. :mrgreen:

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stumblinman wrote:LOL can't go wrong with a spotter.. well can't ya.... I propose just getting some bolts the same size instead. Just use them to plug the holes. They exist, I have some but may need a washer. It's not an uncommon thread size.
The manifold air induction holes on my I6 were pipe thread. I cannot remember if it took 1/4" or 1/8" pipe plugs. A good hardware store should have them, or even a Lowes.
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Grand_Wag_85 wrote:Are you talking about welding the hole on the manifold itself? Cast iron is tricky, gotta get it HOT!

JB Weld probably won't work(been there done that) instead you want to use QuikSteel epoxy putty. Similar to JB Weld but so much better.

If you go for the MacGyver weld you're gonna need to rock the hair, afterall he was a Jeep guy. :mrgreen:

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Re: MacGyver welding

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Stuka wrote: He drives a grand wag (brand new!) in one episode as well. Also the brand new XJ and later the YJ. As well as CJ's.
I'll keep an eye out for the G-dubb. I think I remember an episode with an XJ, definitely remember the CJ's. With all these Jeeps he's messed with no wonder he's so good at fixing stuff. :D
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Grand_Wag_85 wrote: JB Weld probably won't work(been there done that) instead you want to use QuikSteel epoxy putty. Similar to JB Weld but so much better.
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2x, on the 85 I tried the jb weld, hot jb weld stinks too.
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As for PB blaster even after weeks of spraying it did not yield good results. I had better luck with knocker loose spray, or even better freeze off -the instruction recommend 30" spraying time-, a little heat with a propane torch, and a couple hits with an impact screwdriver, and the longest breaker bar you can fit. Nothing broke on either sides. I even resorted to a trip to the local repair shop..... but at $900 I had to do it myself.

Some years ago, on another site.... it was recommended to take a drive on the freeway at WOT to get the headers red hot to ease the removal of those bolts.
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Re: MacGyver welding

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Awesomeness with more MacGyver references!

I plan on just welding the little ~ 1/8" hole in the bolt closed and leaving the bolt in there. Then grind flat and smooth. It'll give me a chance to experiment. If I want to get the bolt out later I could always try the easy-out. Trying to do things on the CHEAP here!
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