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hi. my '66 wagoneer has the factory 2bbl carb (holley, iirc) and i'm having major starting issues. doesn't want to start after sitting overnight. fuel pump is good, new filter, lines checked, etc. hate to keep using starting fluid every morning.
is there a decent replacement carb for the 327 manifold? hopefully one that will work with a manual choke?
i did do a search here without finding an answer. thanks.
jeep'n in the land of 2 seasons... winter and getting ready for winter.
1966 cj5a, 134 f-head, safari windscreen, 3 on-the-tree, saturn od, 4.27's with a detroit locker in back, soon getting a 151 'iron duke'
1966 wagoneer, 327 vigilante (2bbl), 3 on-the-tree, 3.73's, looking for a detroit locker for it.
strvger wrote:hi. my '66 wagoneer has the factory 2bbl carb (holley, iirc) and i'm having major starting issues. doesn't want to start after sitting overnight. fuel pump is good, new filter, lines checked, etc. hate to keep using starting fluid every morning.
is there a decent replacement carb for the 327 manifold? hopefully one that will work with a manual choke?
i did do a search here without finding an answer. thanks.
It's a 2V Holley IIRC. The model 2300 carburetor is available new from Holley today. That's your only option for a new carburetor, AFAIK. You will have to set it up to work on your engine - there are no new carburetors of this type made today for specific applications.
IMO your best option, if you believe the carburetor is at fault for the dry bowl problems, and you do not feel able to work on this yourself, is to find a local (or not so local) carburetor shop and have your carburetor rebuilt. Holleys are not difficult to rebuild - you could get the kit and do it yourself if you felt so inclined.
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thanks for your help.
according to my shop manual, i have the Holley 2209, 2 bbl carb. trying to register on the Holley forum to see if the 2300 you referenced is a direct replacement. it looks very similar to the Motorcraft 2100/2150 carb.
jeep'n in the land of 2 seasons... winter and getting ready for winter.
1966 cj5a, 134 f-head, safari windscreen, 3 on-the-tree, saturn od, 4.27's with a detroit locker in back, soon getting a 151 'iron duke'
1966 wagoneer, 327 vigilante (2bbl), 3 on-the-tree, 3.73's, looking for a detroit locker for it.
Pretty sure a Holley 2300 will bolt to your current intake w/o issues.
Nice little carbs, easy to work on/tune and yes it will work w/ manual choke.
Rebuild kits and parts are cheap.
I have a a Holley 2300 500cfm sitting in the garage, and another one on my CJ5.
Before you change it, make sure the choke closes all the way when it's cold. Mine were manual choke and auto choke. The automatic choke coils go bad and to set the manual, gas to floor, THEN pull the choke on and tap slightly in before letting up the gas. See if that fixes the problem.
well, it's always cold up here! we've had over 70 days straight where over night temps have been below zero. and most of the daytime temps as well!
mine has the bi-metal automatic choke. would take some modding of the carb to convert it to manual as the choke parts are riveted to the body. probably better off just getting the 2300 for it.
jeep'n in the land of 2 seasons... winter and getting ready for winter.
1966 cj5a, 134 f-head, safari windscreen, 3 on-the-tree, saturn od, 4.27's with a detroit locker in back, soon getting a 151 'iron duke'
1966 wagoneer, 327 vigilante (2bbl), 3 on-the-tree, 3.73's, looking for a detroit locker for it.
I havent done one in years, but the carb kits use to come with sheet metal screws so you could drill out the rivets and use screws to reattach. IIRC converting to manual choke is the same.
did some more checking and it seems i may have a problem with the spring assembly in the manifold that activates the choke. i just need some warmer weather to check it out completely.
jeep'n in the land of 2 seasons... winter and getting ready for winter.
1966 cj5a, 134 f-head, safari windscreen, 3 on-the-tree, saturn od, 4.27's with a detroit locker in back, soon getting a 151 'iron duke'
1966 wagoneer, 327 vigilante (2bbl), 3 on-the-tree, 3.73's, looking for a detroit locker for it.
Your 2209 has a divorced choke? That's weird. The 2209 on my parent's Rambler was an integral choke.
I hated that carburetor. There are few carburetors that I consider to be a POS, but the 2209 is one of them. Still, it's easiest to see if you can make it work. Modify it if you have to. Rotating the choke thermostat coil is one adjustment you can do, but you can bend the linkage to change the initial choke clearance (fuel mixture after initial startup). The main problem with the 2209 is the choke is not very adjustable.
2300's bolt right on, and were actually used on some of the earlier 327's and 287 Ramblers. Find one of those on eBay and it'll already be calibrated for your engine. If you go with a new 2300, it would have to be tuned to your engine, and you're likely to never get it as spot on as a factory calibrated carb.
Still, try to make your 2209 work before you go crazy. They run ok if you get them right. Not spectacular, but ok.
i did find a couple of rebuilt carbs on ebay for a reasonable price. i might get one of them 'just in case'.
my understanding of the 2300 family of carbs is they are like the motorcraft 2100/2150 carbs. they have different linkage setups depending on which engine they are used on. i'll have to get the number off my holley 2209 carb to know which 2300 would replace it.
jeep'n in the land of 2 seasons... winter and getting ready for winter.
1966 cj5a, 134 f-head, safari windscreen, 3 on-the-tree, saturn od, 4.27's with a detroit locker in back, soon getting a 151 'iron duke'
1966 wagoneer, 327 vigilante (2bbl), 3 on-the-tree, 3.73's, looking for a detroit locker for it.