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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:10 pm

Ok, got the 63" springs underneath the rear with my home made spring hangers. It looks like they'll work out ok. Bad news is that dad needed the welder and took it on Sunday. :P I need some better ubolts and I'll attach the springs to the 14 bolt and then it will be able to be rolled around. Then it will be time to get the 5.3 and 4l60e in!
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:10 pm

Ok, the mounts I made are vise-gripped onto the frame as far back as possible and the 63" gm springs are in(loosely) and are now attached to the axle. Most of the weight is off the springs right now. Need to do a little more cleaning on the frame rail and I'm going to drill holes in the mounts and frame to bolt these on.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by bassntruck » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:09 am

Nice to see some progress.

I can not recall if I took the steering box out of it. I seem to recall we talked about it. If i did not I think I am going to need it. If I took it tell me I am an idiot and will try to dig it out of where ever I put it but I thought I left it on there.

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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:03 pm

Not a problem. I'm going to use the one off my j20. I hope to get back to it next week. Trans issue is still not resolved, still not sure how it's going to get resolved. Need the weather to straighten out so I feel like working on it. Engine is ready to go in once I finish the mounts.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:56 pm

Oz is now sprung. Next up is to weld up my engine mounts and get it installed. Once it's in and the trans is in, I'll tear into the front axle for brakes, joints, seals, bearings, and getting the knuckle machined for crossover/high steer. Getting there.

Just realized I didn't post a picture of the spring mount bolted on. It's hard to get pics underneath. Simply bolted with 4, 3/8" bolts and lock nuts per mount. Only broke 2, 3/8" drill bits making the holes. :P
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by hutcho » Wed May 01, 2013 7:35 pm

Good to see this is still coming along :thumbsup:

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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Mon May 13, 2013 8:56 pm

Spent about an hour with Oz tonight. Took off grille, front valance, one fender, and the radiator support in preparation for the stabbing of the 5.3. Now I need to go pick up a buddy's cherry picker, pick up my engine, and stick it in.
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If you look closely, you can see the 14bolt in the sunlight under the rear of the Jeep.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by hutcho » Tue May 14, 2013 6:20 pm

Whats your bumper off of?

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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Wed May 15, 2013 4:50 am

I believe a Wagoneer, just with the ends lopped off.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Sat May 18, 2013 11:22 am

:D
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by Road Trip » Sat May 18, 2013 2:50 pm

Great picture! Are you sure he's happy to be helping? Thanks for the tip on the shifter, I like the look.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Sat May 18, 2013 3:37 pm

This was after he just about squished one of my fingers by releasing the cherry picker too quickly. He was a big help, even if he was in the way some. He just isn't sure where to be most of the time, and I'm not good at helping explain what's going on.

Not sure why, but he usually does have a somewhat grumpy look on his face. I think that's just how he photographs.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Tue May 21, 2013 8:06 pm

After 2 nights of back-breaking work, I've got the excess wires removed from my 5.3 harness:
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Wife thinks I took out too much stuff.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by Road Trip » Wed May 22, 2013 6:26 am

Where did you go to figure out which wires to remove? I keep looking at mine and I haven't touched the wires yet because I just can't believe how much wiring there is on the engine! On that same line, what wiring do you need left after you remove the wires you don't need?

My 81 year old Dad told me last week how he wasn't the best at teaching me what to do when working on cars, but I was always out there with him, so I just kind of learned to stay out of the way and eventually (his words) I became "pretty good help." So just keep at it. He also says I never smiled in pictures. Must be a father son thing.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Wed May 22, 2013 4:05 pm

http://lt1swap.com/
That's the main page, you'll need to click on "Wiring Harness Modification Information" link. It can be confusing and overwhelming. You'll have to find the info for the year of your engine/harness. His information also removes the A/C wiring, which I left in. Not 100% what I'll use of the A/C stuff, but I'd like the PCM to keep control of the A/C.

I'm already familiar with these engines and the harness, so it wasn't that big a deal for me, but it is time consuming. I also cheated and used GM information for some of the stuff he left out. For instance, one of the pink wires(I think there are 14 pink wires, total, and some are actually 2 wires in 1 terminal, so actually more than 14 individual wires) is for the brake shift interlock circuitry. It is an extra, and was removed from my harness.

My harness is not done, by any means. It's reduced, but not finalized. That may not happen until I'm much closer to running the engine.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:59 pm

Took the gearbox off the old 20 today. Will clean it up and find an adapter to use the oring power steering lines with the flare style gear. Also going to tear apart the front axle for rebuilding and to get the right hand knuckle machined.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:03 pm

Long time with no updates, I guess. I cleaned up the j20 box and bolted it on.

Took off both front hubs, spindles (pita chore, ended up using a special puller), axle shafts, and finally knuckles. I got the chevy steering arm knocked off the left knuckle, new ball joints pressed in, and reinstalled. I also replaced both axle shaft u-joints while they were out. I'm waiting on funds to allow shipping of my right knuckle to Oregon for machining.

In the meantime, I tried again to get my rear window to work. I just chunked a battery in the back with the rear seat folded up. PO had wired in 2 relays with some wires to work the window motor. One big red wire to power it all, chassis ground, brown little wire to go down, red little wire to go up. I used a set of jumper cables and just temporarily used a battery clamp on the big red wire to work it all. Just touching the brown or red little wires to the ground terminal of the battery made the motor run, but the window didn't come down. It staying in the up position while the lift bar did move with the regulator. With help, I was able to get the rear window down and open the tailgate. Took the glass out and then the lift channel. Cleaned up and straightened the lift channel. I was going to use urethane windshield adhesive to hold the lift channel to the glass, but figured I'd better research it before doing so. Found there's a strip of rubber that holds the glass to the lift channel. I saw it for sale at BJ's, but found some fuel tank strap insulation at work that looked like it would work. Well, it worked like a charm. Put the glass back in tonight.

Meanwhile, I've been slowly collecting parts to finish the engine. I got it as basically a long block with exhaust manifolds. I've since got a intake manifold, throttle body, alternator/power steering pump bracket, alternator, water pump and thermostat, and tensioner. I also took the heat shields off the original manifolds, sand blasted them and painted them with VHT's Flame Proof paint in cast iron to match the block. Color is a little light than the Duplicolor engine enamel cast iron, but I think they look good. I need to get everything bolted on sooner or later, but the heat has been oppressive.

I've also rounded up the stuff to finish my trans including a torque converter and flexplate. I'm using an older 4l60e so I had to adapt the trans/engine connection with a spacer and longer flexplate bolts. Also had to elongate the torque converter bolt holes. Just need to get a transfer case adapter and I'll try and get the trans in and figure out where the trans mount will end up.

I have pics of some of this stuff, but wanted to get it in text before it all got lost in the shuffle of my brain.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:25 pm

j20owner wrote:Long time with no updates, I guess. I cleaned up the j20 box and bolted it on.
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Took off both front hubs, spindles (pita chore, ended up using a special puller), axle shafts, and finally knuckles. I got the chevy steering arm knocked off the left knuckle, new ball joints pressed in, and reinstalled. I also replaced both axle shaft u-joints while they were out. I'm waiting on funds to allow shipping of my right knuckle to Oregon for machining.
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In the meantime, I tried again to get my rear window to work. I just chunked a battery in the back with the rear seat folded up. PO had wired in 2 relays with some wires to work the window motor. One big red wire to power it all, chassis ground, brown little wire to go down, red little wire to go up. I used a set of jumper cables and just temporarily used a battery clamp on the big red wire to work it all. Just touching the brown or red little wires to the ground terminal of the battery made the motor run, but the window didn't come down. It staying in the up position while the lift bar did move with the regulator. With help, I was able to get the rear window down and open the tailgate. Took the glass out and then the lift channel. Cleaned up and straightened the lift channel. I was going to use urethane windshield adhesive to hold the lift channel to the glass, but figured I'd better research it before doing so. Found there's a strip of rubber that holds the glass to the lift channel. I saw it for sale at BJ's, but found some fuel tank strap insulation at work that looked like it would work. Well, it worked like a charm. Put the glass back in tonight.

Meanwhile, I've been slowly collecting parts to finish the engine. I got it as basically a long block with exhaust manifolds. I've since got a intake manifold, throttle body, alternator/power steering pump bracket, alternator, water pump and thermostat, and tensioner. I also took the heat shields off the original manifolds, sand blasted them and painted them with VHT's Flame Proof paint in cast iron to match the block. Color is a little light than the Duplicolor engine enamel cast iron, but I think they look good. I need to get everything bolted on sooner or later, but the heat has been oppressive.
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I've also rounded up the stuff to finish my trans including a torque converter and flexplate. I'm using an older 4l60e so I had to adapt the trans/engine connection with a spacer and longer flexplate bolts. Also had to elongate the torque converter bolt holes. Just need to get a transfer case adapter and I'll try and get the trans in and figure out where the trans mount will end up.

I have pics of some of this stuff, but wanted to get it in text before it all got lost in the shuffle of my brain.
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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by bassntruck » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:57 pm

I know it has been a while since you have been on here.

I have been cleaning out a bunch of stuff around here. Came across a new in box rear glass lift bar and stuff from BJs I never put on it seems. Which after reading your post, that is why the glass was free. I will trade it for my steering box. :)

I know you are doing a 5.3 but I also found a new remanufactured power steering pump for the 5.9/401 I think.

20-7879
AMERICAN MOTORS AMX 1980
AMERICAN MOTORS CONCORD (1980 - 1983)
AMERICAN MOTORS EAGLE (1980 - 1988)
AMERICAN MOTORS PACER 1980
AMERICAN MOTORS SPIRIT (1980 - 1983)
JEEP CHEROKEE (1980 - 1983)
JEEP CJ5 (1980 - 1982)
JEEP CJ7 (1980 - 1982)
JEEP GRAND WAGONEER (1984 - 1991)
JEEP J10 (1980 - 1988)
JEEP J20 (1980 - 1988)
JEEP SCRAMBLER (1981 - 1982)
JEEP WAGONEER (1980 - 1983)

If you want it or know anyone local that could use it I am asking $20.

I think that unknown wire in the back goes to the relay for the defrost.

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Re: The Rebuild of Oz

Post by j20owner » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:36 am

I'm pretty sure you kept the gear box as that's the one off my J20. I've been on strike on the jeep due to funding issues with the missus.
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