Anyone have a CJ7 and can measure the front bumper

[candymancan]

So the local pickup a part.. well the one an hour away.. has a pretty good condition cj7. And the front bumper

Looks like itll fit where my J10s rear crossmember is. Which is completetly rotted out like swiss cheese.

But before i waste an hour therr.. can any I ne tell me the dimension ? Like if itll fit in the c channle ?

In a way i dont think itll matter 100% i could probably make it work.

Oh and is there anything from a cj7 thays worth money when/if i do go that i can take lol ?

[tgreese]

CJ-7 frame and bumper mounting is different from my CJ-6, but I recall the overall dimensions are the same. 54" x 4.25" x 2".

Open Dana 30 front axle is a popular upgrade for early CJs. If it's a 4-cylinder it may have 4.10s which are way more desirable than the usual 3.54s or 3.07s. Complete front grille is an upgrade to earlier CJs, if it's cheap. Front fenders - the OEMs are way better quality than the repops, and fit all CJs from '72 on. An '80 or newer has a Dana 300, which would sell fast. '76-79 will be a Dana 20 or Quadratrac.

CJs are more popular than our Jeeps, and most of the exterior parts are reproduced today. '76-up CJs are well supported in the aftermarket. The rear axle and most of the manual transmissions are not worthwhile.

The rear axles are often upgraded to aftermarket one-piece shafts, which I'd think you could resell easily. Original shafts (weak) are nutted. An '80-up with an automatic will be a A909/999 and Dana 300, which is a neat passenger-drop combo (would be nice for my CJ-6).

[SJTD]

My '85 frame is 29-3/8" wide 3-5/8" high. The POS chromy aftermarket bumper is 54" wide and about 4-1/4" tall 2" deep. Has the same 45* angles on the ends so Tim's got it right.

I'd snag the whole thing unless it's trashed or rusted or something.

You have some room now, start filling it up.

[candymancan]

A shame this CJ7 is even in the Jy.. look at it ? Looks in great shape. Someone was an idiot selling it for 300$ to the salvage yard lol.. I woulda given en a lot more.

Guess this bumper wont fit.. the j10 is 49 1.2 x 4.5 x2. Slightly above 4.5 actually

Hmm.. I wonder if it can just be cut where the frame meets to make up the half inch and still be used. You know like the Jeep frane just stuck out .25 inchs on thr bottom and top and jist weld it together .. or maybe Ill just keep looking i guess. Dont care what it looks like visually if its strong i just gatta get rid of my swiss cheese cross member/bumper.

I heard was it a YJ i forgot bumper will direct fit though.. So maybe ill look at those in the Jy when i go.. there are like 4 of them there

[tgreese]

Unlikely about the YJ bumper being longer. A YJ is the same tub as a CJ-7 IIRC. The track may be wider. Maybe. Take your tape.

Plenty of material in two of these bumpers, I'd think. Splice them together?

[Stuka]

YJ axles are wider than CJ axles. Frame is different, but tub is similar enough that putting a CJ front clip onto a YJ isn't too tough.

For your J-Truck, you can get c-channel steel for not much money.

And yeah, that CJ needs to be saved. It even has original wheels and hub caps.

[candymancan]

I went today.. Turns out YJ and the cj bumper were identical ? Nearly an inch or half inch too narrow. So it wouldnt have fit.

I might have to make my own like stuka said. Get two 90 degree angle 3/16th plates.. and a flat 3/16th plate. And weld them together if i csnt find a factory c channle one thatll go on my frame. But how strong will a welded made one be over a solid c channle peice ?

Oh and the cj.. i found out why i was turned into the yard.. Turns out the side we didnt see. Underneeth and the right hand side.. The frame was GONE the body was folding like youd fold a pizza lol

Wow thats the worst frame dmg ive ever seen

[Stuka]

Well, good a clean-ish CJ wasn't in the junk yard. But bummer that another one has been lost to rot.

[devildog80]

EVERYTHING that mounts to the frame is worth saving.
Even the rear axle if its an AMC20, as backing plates for the brakes are getting hard to find.
Some are selling at 3 figures for each side as they are just not something made anymore......like most of our FSJ parts are getting.
If you can I would try to get it complete, and advertise it as parts truck on JeepForum.
Would take some time to sell off the parts, or you could sell it off to a Jeep specific yard, that will salvage everything.
Even have some that will buy a replacement frame, and rebuild back to near new condition, even on salvage title.
Please save it if possible!

[threepiece]

I make rear X members from 4.5”x4.5”x1/4” wall square structural steel tubing. A piece of this tubing cut to length and ripped in half will make two nearly perfect J truck X members.

The problem for some of you fellows is the ripping and the subsequent straightening of the resulting channels. A vertical band saw and press of sufficient capacity make this job practical.

[candymancan]

Dont have a vand saw or press.. but i imagine a grinder or sawzawl and a tape line to follow would be fine... and i dont know where to get the square tubing you mention.

I will litterally have to find a steel place nesr me to bend a c channle.

Or i will have to weld two 90 degree angle iron 3/16th plates.. and a flat 3/16th plate to make a C channle myself. I just hate how much lowes wants for steel like this

The welded one wont be as strong as a bent one... but i may have no other choice... at least itll be better than my swiss cheesed paper thin one. I mean how much weaker would a welded one eith 3 peices be.. I dont imagine itll be that dramatic.

[devildog80]

Years ago some scrap yards had piles of odd piece steel, and would sell by the pound.
Might check to see if any still do this, and take a look to see if you could find a piece for your project.

[candymancan]

Na none here do. Ive been looking. Some people sell scrap on fb marketplace.. but its veey thick metal like 1/4 inchcor half inch.. for buildings lol

[devildog80]

Changing times. Looks like we are stuck buying raw steel, at hiway robbery prices.

[candymancan]

Yea ima call a couple steel shops nearby.. but knowing them for (custom) stuff itll be an arm and leg.. The lowes welding option will be like 120$ when done and said.

[Srdayflyer]

if you go to a steel yard see if they have a cutoff rack or cutoff pile, thats how i built my daughters custom winch bumper for her fsj cherokee, paid 10cents a pound but i hac to dig through their cut offs rack total cost 115.00 for the materials plus i redid my j5 rear bumper with the left overs, just and idea.

[devildog80]

Local welding shops might also have a scrap pile they might sell pieces cheap?

[candymancan]

I called 7 shops around me within 45 min.. No one bends c channle.. and the c channle they have wont work.

Smh.. There are no iron works or steel shops left in this state it feels like hah.

Oh well...