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engine swap

Post by 89jeepgrandwagoneer » Fri May 22, 2020 9:21 am

Can anyone give me rainmans link being he may have done this particular swap (Dodge 318/a518 for a AMC 360/727). I want to get a feel of what I'm up against. I know that the 727 will not change over due to bell housing configuration. I know people who love the 360 AMC(actually Buick 350), but I want an engine that you don't have to modify internally so the 7th and8th journals get oiled, you don't have to modify so the timing chain will get oiled and where the oil pump will not grind its self into the timing chain cover. I am a MOPAR person and I want to put a MOPAR engine in the vehiclelike should have happened when MOPAR bought JEEP from AMC. Any help is appreciated. Kinda started this in another post.

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Re: engine swap

Post by dodgerammit » Fri May 22, 2020 10:29 am

The 7th and 8th journal issue is usually high rpm stuff, which the Jeep doesn't do.
My engine was fine during teardown save from a rod bearing that spun. Not a fault from oiling.

The timing chain stuff is pretty simple mod. Just widen the oil groove on rear face for cam oil hole alignment.

However, I understand wanting to stay familiar.

If your engine is functioning, go ahead and take a video of it running (and driving if possible).
Put the engine and trans up for sale for a few hundred bucks. The buyer can see the video and feel better about a buildable engine purchase.

Give me a few and I'll see if I can find the link to the threads.

FWIW, Mopar kept AMC drivetrain because the Wagoneer was a cash cow. They made bank on every one sold without having to touch it. It was due to be phased out in 91 regardless, so any mods/retooling would have been unnecessary expense.

Also, the Grand Cherokee we all see as mopar was an AMC child. Already developed and nearing production before AMC was bought out. Chrysler just put its efi system (better than Renix as far as reliability) on it. Win-Win for Mopar.
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Re: engine swap

Post by dodgerammit » Fri May 22, 2020 10:40 am

Here is one thread:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2205&fbclid=IwAR1w ... wCuB4_S124

Of course, photobucket is garbage and blocks the images.
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Re: engine swap

Post by dodgerammit » Fri May 22, 2020 10:45 am

For some reason, Rainman's thread isn't showing in searches.
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Re: engine swap

Post by dodgerammit » Fri May 22, 2020 10:47 am

84 Grand Waggy-Radio Flyer (Garnet Red/3M Ebony Metallic woodgrain, with tan interior) AMC 360/727/229 TFI conversion, MSD streetfire ignition, D44/AMC20 Serehill tailgate and headlight harnesses :fsj:


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Re: engine swap

Post by candymancan » Tue May 26, 2020 8:43 pm

89jeepgrandwagoneer wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 9:21 am
Can anyone give me rainmans link being he may have done this particular swap (Dodge 318/a518 for a AMC 360/727). I want to get a feel of what I'm up against. I know that the 727 will not change over due to bell housing configuration. I know people who love the 360 AMC(actually Buick 350), but I want an engine that you don't have to modify internally so the 7th and8th journals get oiled, you don't have to modify so the timing chain will get oiled and where the oil pump will not grind its self into the timing chain cover. I am a MOPAR person and I want to put a MOPAR engine in the vehiclelike should have happened when MOPAR bought JEEP from AMC. Any help is appreciated. Kinda started this in another post.


What do you mean buick 350 ? Are you correcting yourself in that you have a buick engine..or are you saying an AMC 360 is a buick 350 lol because its not
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Re: engine swap

Post by fulsizjeep » Wed May 27, 2020 4:12 am

I thought everybody knew the 360 was a Dodge motor. :o
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Re: engine swap

Post by rocklaurence » Wed May 27, 2020 4:38 am

Stroke the LA block to 409 before you install it..

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