Ad blocker detected: Our website is made possible by displaying online advertisements to our visitors. Please consider supporting us by disabling your ad blocker on our website.
I have been looking for an older Wagoneer for my girlfriend to use as a weekend vehicle. They were all fairly pricy and I did not want to spend 15K on a mid 80's model. I had a 1974 Cherokee that I should have never sold, but that's another story. I came across this one as I was at a stop light and happened to look at my phone and scan FB marketplace. It was just around the corner. I texted her and she said I could come by to take a look. When I arrived, it looked like a 1970 model that had been sitting for awhile. She said it runs but overheats, and the headlight has an issue and may be a ground. She also said the idle is too high. Battery was dead, but I will not use my duramax to jump vehicles as a friend of mine tried once and burnt up my TCM ($600). I noticed the shifter was in the center between two bucket seats and the A/C was in the center of the dash. I had never seen that before, but did not think much of it, at first. I looked online, and I believe it was here, and found a discussion about the 1414X. I had her send me a picture of the pink slip and it is indeed a 1414X. It needs some work, but it seems pretty solid, all original, and I'm super excited to have found her.
My question is, are these worth restoring to original, or are they just a model with limited production that really does not increase the value much?
Its a 1970 with a production year of 1969.
Thank you in advance for your response and sorry for the long message
That's a great model, especially if it still has the console installed. There is a member here and on IFSJA.org, Mud89, who tracks information on these Custom Special Wagoneers. I have one as well.
Limited numbers were produced, but they are not of particular extra value, just rarer. Good luck bringing it back to life and getting it gussied up for your girlfriend! Nice grab of an awesome Wagoneer! Welcome!
1970 1414X Wagoneer "The Pig"
-Custom Special
-Dauntless 350 V8
-D27 front/D44 rear
2006 XK (65th Ann Edition)-DD
Thanks for the feedback. I have some pics of the rig and the door tag. I will download from my phone and post them. Not sure how to do that, but I will figure it out....
Welcome to the board. I hope you figure out how to post pics.
'Restoring to original' can mean a lot of different things to different people. In the Mustang world a fanatic will spend years and $$$ finding parts like the original carb or a specific set of spark plug wires. Often times these cars don't get driven. Our Jeeps don't lend themselves well to this level of fanaticism if, for no other reason, the lack of documentation.
If I had a 1414x I would keep the original drive train and interior. If I liked the paint color I would keep it, even if repainting. If the motor, transmission, transfer case or axles had an issue I wouldn't hesitate to swap in the same model, even if it was from a different year. I wouldn't worry about keeping wearable parts 'original'. Springs, steering components, belts, hoses and such would all be replaced by the same type but not 'NOS'.
If I was looking at a 1414x I would want it to be mostly like original and would pay a premium. If someone took a 1414x and did what I did to my Cherokee I wouldn't pay any type of premium for it.
Until I figure out how to post pictures, here are the vin and date of manufacture
Vin# 1414X19302369
October 1969
So it seems it was built in 1969 and registered as a 1970. Paint and body tag is gone from passenger firewall. I know someone tracks the production numbers, so I hope this information helps the cause.
Cleaned her up yesterday. Took the worn out seat covers off, got all the junk out of it, found the owners manual with some recall letters, found old registrations that seem to suggest this vehicle spent its early years at someones cabin in South Lake Tahoe. I'll keep digging and try to get more history by contacting previous owners. This is kind off fun!
Thanks. I went on rockauto and the York compressor is around $177. I think I will order that one. I doubt I can find the little clock that mounted on the console..
Looks very good w minimal rust by the rear wheel well. As for the supposedly overheating, it depends when it occurs, at slow speed or upon getting to operating temperature. Get an infrared thermometer, also called non contact thermometer, it can be as simple as a bad gauge, bad thermostat, bad thermostatic fan -not too sure what is installed on your engine- or neglected cooling system: check the coolant color , plugged radiator, bad timing...
When running you can check for coolant flow by comparing the upper and lower radiator hoses temperature, by touch watch out the rotating fan, hence the recommendation for the non-contact thermometer... if running the heater at full speed does the temp goes down?
A simple flush with one of the mild acid can help a lot... or a plain flush with water using one of the flushing kits until the water runs clear.
also, make sure that the radiator area is not plugged with dirt or leaves or .... bugs...
As for the compressor... you need to get a dryer/filter and do an AC system flush to get rid of the old residual oil and eventual contaminant as the system was left open to the air...
Michel
74 wag (349 Kmiles... parked, next step is a rust free body)
85 Gwag (229 Kmiles... the running test lab)
Thank you letank for the information. I will diagnose this week. I think timing may have something to do with it, but I will flush, new thermostat, clean fins on radiator, check fan, check radiator cap. I also think I need a new fuel pump. Is there an in line fuel filter anywhere on these?