The engine is a M2DICR. Which is a pretty proven engine built by Mahindra.letank wrote:now we need to find out whose diesel in under the hood? Peugeot or .... IH ?
The transmission is an NGT520 5-speed manual unit based on the Peugeot BA10/5. the BA10/5 did poorly behind the the xj 4.0...
That is what I was thinking. I bet you could turn that motor into a beast with a few tweaks... at least another 100hp and 200 ft lbs of torque.Stuka wrote:I was reading on some forums for SE Asia last night and there is a lot of people that mod them. Chances are you could easily get more power out of them. As 68hp from a 2.5L turbo diesel is really low. But they just sip fuel at that power level.
But really no reason for it. It has plenty of power and gearing for what it is.Lumpskie wrote:That is what I was thinking. I bet you could turn that motor into a beast with a few tweaks... at least another 100hp and 200 ft lbs of torque.Stuka wrote:I was reading on some forums for SE Asia last night and there is a lot of people that mod them. Chances are you could easily get more power out of them. As 68hp from a 2.5L turbo diesel is really low. But they just sip fuel at that power level.
I agree entirely. Just to put this in context, I have a family owned (acreage) Polaris Ranger 900 with 68hp, a direct competitor to the Roxor. I can tell you that 68 well applied hp is more than enough to knock your hat off and get you your ya-yas. No need to burn dirty diesel to get 6hrs out of a tank either.Stuka wrote:
But really no reason for it. It has plenty of power and gearing for what it is.
One of the big things the Roxor offers is 3k lbs towing. WAY more than any other UTV. According to them ranchers are really liking them. And there are quite a few states that let you make UTVs street legal. So if you live in one of those places, its a brand new diesel Jeep that you can cruise to work and back.REDONE wrote:I agree entirely. Just to put this in context, I have a family owned (acreage) Polaris Ranger 900 with 68hp, a direct competitor to the Roxor. I can tell you that 68 well applied hp is more than enough to knock your hat off and get you your ya-yas. No need to burn dirty diesel to get 6hrs out of a tank either.Stuka wrote:
But really no reason for it. It has plenty of power and gearing for what it is.
I think the Roxor is cool, but I don't think it has a market. People who want an old Jeep will save their pennies and break out their checkbook for an actual Ol' Jeep. For those who need a UTV, the Roxor is a pile of antiquated dog turds next to everything offered from John Deere to Kawasaki. It doesn't even haul 500#, everyone else hauls 1000#, with a built-in dump bed to boot. The Roxor is based on a design for WWII G.I. use, the modern UTV was designed for current Delta Force. It's comparing catapults to cruise missiles.
I hope I'm wrong and that they take off, but cool as it might be, I wouldn't buy it at any price. It will occupy a market that isn't historically profitable: "imported Americana".
The Roxor is built in America, so not a whole lot of trade going on with India. Sure some money goes back there, and some components come from there. But most of it benefits american workers.REDONE wrote:Haha! It's not "way more", my ranger tows a ton and the 4 seat version of the Polaris is 2500lbs but I do see you're point. I'd wager that difference has more to do with the geared transmission vs CVTs than anything else. I guess I see the Roxor like I see this music video:
It's cool enough to add to my yootoob party playlist, but I'm not going to order the album anytime soon.
I also hope it succeeds because I want the US to trade more with India and less with China. Regardless of my personal valuation of the Roxor, it's completely different than anything currently available on the "new" market and they are making an honest effort to establish themselves as a recognized brand in the US. China just counterfeits whatever is selling with impunity.
hijack interest, can you elaborate, parts refnum... on that specific spin-on kit that you installed?REDONE wrote:I installed a real spin-on fluid filter
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Disagree on 2 points. First, the "dirty diesel... 6 hours a tank" comment. I run a tuned, all mechanical diesel on my daily driver: 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser. It gets 20mpg (when the gas version got 10), doesn't smoke and only applies more fuel when the boost goes higher than stock levels. ($25 Dawes boost controller and rotating the fuel pin to a little more aggressive profile) Reason? I'm building it to tow.REDONE wrote:I agree entirely. Just to put this in context, I have a family owned (acreage) Polaris Ranger 900 with 68hp, a direct competitor to the Roxor. I can tell you that 68 well applied hp is more than enough to knock your hat off and get you your ya-yas. No need to burn dirty diesel to get 6hrs out of a tank either.Stuka wrote:
But really no reason for it. It has plenty of power and gearing for what it is.
I think the Roxor is cool, but I don't think it has a market. People who want an old Jeep will save their pennies and break out their checkbook for an actual Ol' Jeep. For those who need a UTV, the Roxor is a pile of antiquated dog turds next to everything offered from John Deere to Kawasaki. It doesn't even haul 500#, everyone else hauls 1000#, with a built-in dump bed to boot. The Roxor is based on a design for WWII G.I. use, the modern UTV was designed for current Delta Force. It's comparing catapults to cruise missiles.
I hope I'm wrong and that they take off, but cool as it might be, I wouldn't buy it at any price. It will occupy a market that isn't historically profitable: "imported Americana".