KL Cherokee Owners out there?

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KJ Ryu
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Re: KL Cherokee Owners out there?

Post by KJ Ryu » Fri May 22, 2020 11:21 pm

Thanks, Stuka. I feel like it's a good deal but may have to ask my credit union about a refi for a lower interest rate. It's a one-owner with 75K miles since Dec 2015. Well, add about 30 miles, now. :fsj: It's fun but, I am, so far at least, disappointed in the manual shifting. Even in sport mode, it just doesn't have any aggression, if ya'll know what I mean. I want to feel that gear change! I am sure I will get over it, as it does take corners like nothing else I've ever owned! :-bd

And this job is stable even when oil isn't! Still oil-related but fixing drill pipe, which everyone does when they aren't using them, or it's damaged beyond use. So, there's always work. :-bd :-bd
Ron

2005 KJ, Hit-n-Run, 2am 6-17-2012, Totaled. :mad:
1977 SJ J10, 4v360, T18, D20, 37x14s, SOA & SF on tons, still ugly.
1978 SJ Wagoneer, 4v360, QT, 33x12.5s, lift by Sawzall :-bd NOT Running :(
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Re: KL Cherokee Owners out there?

Post by Chubbinius » Sun May 24, 2020 2:22 pm

Fancy new ride, plus congrats on the new job! That's a great way to close out May!
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Re: KL Cherokee Owners out there?

Post by tgreese » Mon May 25, 2020 12:53 pm

Congratulations!

I tried Sport Mode on mine for a while, and didn't much like it. Seems like it only moved the shift points up, and with 9 speeds, it felt like it was hung up on a lower gear during regular driving.
Tim Reese
Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS/PDB, hubcaps.
Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination A/Ts, 7600 GVWR
Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
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Re: KL Cherokee Owners out there?

Post by REDONE » Mon May 25, 2020 3:30 pm

Definitely, the semi-automatic shift mode is only useful for holding speed going down hill. Might not do much for Flatlanders but on the paved passes up here it's awesome.

Also, while we still love our KLTH, we did test drive a gladiator this weekend. If the new-car smell wasn't so strong you could taste it in your mouth 6 minutes later, we'd have probably drove it home. We've decided too wait until the lease returns start coming back to the lot before we test drive another.
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T18/D20/D44s&4.10s/33" Mud Claws
Grizzly Locker Rear
4" front spring drop, 5" rear shackle flip
Chevy style HEI (ECM controlled)
Dolphin "Shark" gauges in a fancy homemade oak bezel
3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.


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Re: KL Cherokee Owners out there?

Post by KJ Ryu » Tue May 26, 2020 9:14 pm

That's pretty much how it seems to me too, Tim. Redone, I hadn't considered it for "engine braking." Thanks for that!
Ron

2005 KJ, Hit-n-Run, 2am 6-17-2012, Totaled. :mad:
1977 SJ J10, 4v360, T18, D20, 37x14s, SOA & SF on tons, still ugly.
1978 SJ Wagoneer, 4v360, QT, 33x12.5s, lift by Sawzall :-bd NOT Running :(
1977 SJ J10, SniperEFI 401, QT, D44s, 31X10.5s :fsj:
2006 KJ
Mars wrote:One man's trans leak is another's penetrating oil :D

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REDONE
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Re: KL Cherokee Owners out there?

Post by REDONE » Wed May 27, 2020 5:45 am

Totes! For what it's worth, on really long, consistent downhill sections, the computer brains will do the engine breaking for you after you slow yourself with the brake pedal once or twice, then wait for you to hit the gas before coasting again. It's a really smart car!

It's in the twisty downhills or in hurky-jerky I-70 traffic that I use the semi-auto mode to engine brake. When you shift into semi-auto mode, it automatically goes into one gear lower than the one you're already in, too. I got into the habit of using the semi-auto because we toasted the brakes twice. It probably has more to do with the fact that the off-road "hill descent control" doesn't use the engine to slow down, it just activates the brake calipers without you touching the brake pedal.

I installed some Powerstop drilled+slotted rotors with their better-than-stock-but-not-quite-racecar pads. I doubt many KLTH owners have to do this, but we really do take ours of road fairly often.
79 J-10 (Honcho Mucho) KE0LSU
304/Performance Fuel Injection TBI/MTA1/SP2P/Magnum rockers
T18/D20/D44s&4.10s/33" Mud Claws
Grizzly Locker Rear
4" front spring drop, 5" rear shackle flip
Chevy style HEI (ECM controlled)
Dolphin "Shark" gauges in a fancy homemade oak bezel
3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.

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Re: KL Cherokee Owners out there?

Post by tgreese » Wed May 27, 2020 6:28 am

Is this semi-automatic mode what I'm thinking of? When you move the shifter to the left, you can upshift/downshift manually, and it holds in gear. AFAIK mine never changes gear without my input in this mode - no "one gear lower" thing. It also indicates the gear number in this mode, which helps to satisfy my curiosity about which gear I'm in (move shifter over, look at gear number, move back.)
Tim Reese
Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS/PDB, hubcaps.
Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination A/Ts, 7600 GVWR
Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
Dual Everything: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk, ECO Green

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Re: KL Cherokee Owners out there?

Post by Stuka » Wed May 27, 2020 7:05 am

When you have it in manual shift mode, the only time it should shift on its own is if you redline while accelerating, it will shift to the next gear. And if you come to a stop, it should down shift into lower gears as you stop. There is technically an override if you are in too high of a gear, and the engine is under enough to load to be lugging it, it will first unlock the torque converter, and may downshift, but then typically goes back up into the gear it was in before once you are on level terrain again.
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Re: KL Cherokee Owners out there?

Post by REDONE » Wed May 27, 2020 7:35 am

Nope, at least on mine, when I flip the shifter over to the left, the RPMs jump because it downshifts one gear when going from automatic to semi-auto. It's like they knew when the designed it that nobody wants to try and beat the gas milage of letting the trans shift itself.

I call it semi-automatic because that's the term industry used when Ferarri brought it to market (with the steering wheel mounted paddle shifters), and "sport mode" is a mode on the 4x4 selector.
79 J-10 (Honcho Mucho) KE0LSU
304/Performance Fuel Injection TBI/MTA1/SP2P/Magnum rockers
T18/D20/D44s&4.10s/33" Mud Claws
Grizzly Locker Rear
4" front spring drop, 5" rear shackle flip
Chevy style HEI (ECM controlled)
Dolphin "Shark" gauges in a fancy homemade oak bezel
3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.

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