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Anyone live up here? Have an recommendations of a shop, or a place to work on the truck? 83 J10 AMC 20 rear has a tru trac dif. I believe the dif is broken, don't know if any axle shafts are broken or not. Am at a camp ground where it would be frowned upon if I pulled the dif apart here.
Oh Geez.....hang in there, and try to get you some help asap.
Make sure to post on other forums you watch too, and let us know as soon as the Calvary arrives.
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified
Sure you are not in neutral on transfer case shifter?
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified
for sure not in neutral. Dif is broke. Every shop is 3+ weeks out to even look at it. Going to wait until after campground employees leave for the night and pull cover off.
Relaying info over to the Jeep Forum, as CJ's use the AMC 20 as well.
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified
If it's an AMC20 with a broken axle the wheel should be sitting at an angle. If it's not maybe you can pull the drive shaft and run in 4-H with the hubs locked?
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'84 GW with Nissan SD33T, early Chev NV4500, 300, narrowed Ford reverse 44, narrowed Ford 60, SOA/reversed shackle in fornt, lowered mount/flipped shackle in rear.
Wheels look straight. The dif center section is for sure broken. Already removed driveshaft and tried that, rear wheels get bound, locked, then just drag. need the driveshaft in inorder to get it to move. Going to see if i can remove enough guts out of the dif so it can spin freely.
You think it would make it all the way back to Texas with just front axle?
I think you can, but that is a long pull, and sure would not be running at full speed!
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified
Have some feelers out there trying to find some assistance.
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified
devildog80 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:02 pm
Relaying info over to the Jeep Forum, as CJ's use the AMC 20 as well.
The CJ M20 is an entirely different axle. The R&P/Carrier are the same, everything else is different.
FSJ's use the M23.
If you by chance have an NP219 or 229, the following setup will sadly not work. But if you have a 208 (locking hubs), you can drive it in front wheel drive. I have literally driven hundreds of miles doing this.
EDIT: I know thats different than thousands. But, full time systems in these always powered the front axle with no differences. Just depends how much that trailer weighs I suppose.
Which side of the park did you come in, East through Browning or West through Columbia Falls?
Waiting for some IM's to come back from other FSJ members on both sides.
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified
devildog80 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:02 pm
Relaying info over to the Jeep Forum, as CJ's use the AMC 20 as well.
The CJ M20 is an entirely different axle. The R&P/Carrier are the same, everything else is different.
FSJ's use the M23.
If you by chance have an NP219 or 229, the following setup will sadly not work. But if you have a 208 (locking hubs), you can drive it in front wheel drive. I have literally driven hundreds of miles doing this.
EDIT: I know thats different than thousands. But, full time systems in these always powered the front axle with no differences. Just depends how much that trailer weighs I suppose.
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified
devildog80 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:32 pm
I know others on the CJ site that know someone or have an FSJ or two, so thinking someone might know someone who knows someone......
Not too much traffic on any of the forums today, so no return messages yet, but might have more activity soon as it is getting later.
People will be coming home and logging on, so be patient.
Might be able to get you a helpline yet, as there are quite a few Jeeps in that neck of the woods
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified
Do any of the park staff know anyone with an FSJ or CJ?
Could put the local call chain in motion to find someone who might be willing, and have parts available, to help you out?
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified
Guy's can call off the dogs. we already threw in the towel. We are at a camp ground in Columbia Falls, luckly not inside the park. . Tried to leave the camp ground this morning to go to south dakota and blew the rear 100 yards out of the driveway. Used 4wd to bring it back. It is a 208 that is how I have been able to move it in 4wd. Going to take truck and camper to storage unit down the street tomorrow morning. Already have flight back to Houston booked. Going to come back with different truck and car trailer. Will tow it to Colorado to friends place and access it there. Every shop in town is 2-3 week out to even look at it. We have been looking for a new place to live, sounds like I need to move here and open an auto repair shop. u haul would have been $1300 just to colorado can't image the price to texas. Rental compact car to texas $3800 for the first 400 miles!!!!!!! I dislike flying but it is what we are going to do.
Thank you for the help, and for asking around.
I always work on my own vehicles, never take to a shop. There is a lot of population in this area, when every shop is 3 weeks out including dealers, how does the average person with 1 vehicle get to work if their car is broken. Just crazy to me.
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified