Sonora, aka Sierra power outages?

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Sonora, aka Sierra power outages?

Post by letank » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:36 pm

Do you have power in Sonora... ? of course, a moot question as the internet is probably coming down after 12-18 hrs because the relays are not powered up.
A couple of friends are visiting and they may have to alter their plans. I know that Grass Valley and Nevada city are in a black out since 4am wednesday morning, gas stations and restaurants are closed in Grass valley area

here is the official map

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 316348&z=9
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Re: Sonora, aka Sierra power outages?

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:37 am

So is this part of the what are referred to here as “rolling”power outages to reduce the risk of fire ?
What are your opinions on this ?
I see the safety factor in theory, but with the age of the equipment going up so does the risk of failure when brought back on line. The failure also has a strong possibility of arcing


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Re: Sonora, aka Sierra power outages?

Post by Stuka » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:54 am

letank wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:36 pm
Do you have power in Sonora... ? of course, a moot question as the internet is probably coming down after 12-18 hrs because the relays are not powered up.
A couple of friends are visiting and they may have to alter their plans. I know that Grass Valley and Nevada city are in a black out since 4am wednesday morning, gas stations and restaurants are closed in Grass valley area

here is the official map

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 316348&z=9
Almost every PG&E customer in California had their power turned off yesterday. I am here at work where we have a generator and such, so things are working.

So yes, Sonora (and all of Tuolumne county) is out of power until at least tomorrow.
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Re: Sonora, aka Sierra power outages?

Post by Stuka » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:55 am

MReese Wagoneer wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:37 am
So is this part of the what are referred to here as “rolling”power outages to reduce the risk of fire ?
What are your opinions on this ?
I see the safety factor in theory, but with the age of the equipment going up so does the risk of failure when brought back on line. The failure also has a strong possibility of arcing


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The reason they have to do this is because PG&E (an investor owned company) chose to not do any/little tree maintenance for about 20 years. In the last year since their bankruptcy they have start to do a lot, but it will take quite some time to get things good enough so that we don't have to shut power off to 3/4 of the state.
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Re: Sonora, aka Sierra power outages?

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:07 am

I’ve seen some older HV switch gear and even some newer that just hated to be switched on and off the arc and power surges can cause problem
But I fully understand about tree maint.

That seems like a massive outage


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Re: Sonora, aka Sierra power outages?

Post by bigun » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:10 am

Stuka wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:55 am
MReese Wagoneer wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:37 am
So is this part of the what are referred to here as “rolling”power outages to reduce the risk of fire ?
What are your opinions on this ?
I see the safety factor in theory, but with the age of the equipment going up so does the risk of failure when brought back on line. The failure also has a strong possibility of arcing


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The reason they have to do this is because PG&E (an investor owned company) chose to not do any/little tree maintenance for about 20 years. In the last year since their bankruptcy they have start to do a lot, but it will take quite some time to get things good enough so that we don't have to shut power off to 3/4 of the state.
Is it because they choose not too or did the regulations imposed by the state keep them from trimming the right aways

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Re: Sonora, aka Sierra power outages?

Post by Stuka » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:51 am

bigun wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:10 am
Stuka wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:55 am
MReese Wagoneer wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:37 am
So is this part of the what are referred to here as “rolling”power outages to reduce the risk of fire ?
What are your opinions on this ?
I see the safety factor in theory, but with the age of the equipment going up so does the risk of failure when brought back on line. The failure also has a strong possibility of arcing


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The reason they have to do this is because PG&E (an investor owned company) chose to not do any/little tree maintenance for about 20 years. In the last year since their bankruptcy they have start to do a lot, but it will take quite some time to get things good enough so that we don't have to shut power off to 3/4 of the state.
Is it because they choose not too or did the regulations imposed by the state keep them from trimming the right aways
PG&E chose to pay investors instead of do tree maintenance. It all came out in their bankruptcy. Other electricity providers do not have these issues, only PG&E. PG&E just happens to be the largest in the state.

The state actually has VERY FEW regulations regarding cutting or trimming trees. The parts of our forest that are over grown for instance is all Federal land, the state has zero control over that. In the early 2000's the Department of Forestry elected to cut WAY back on logging. This in term resulted in forest areas becoming overgrown. But this is a separate issue to what PG&E has done. It just literally adds fuel to the fire.

The state having the hottest years on record for the last decade has just made these things worse.
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Re: Sonora, aka Sierra power outages?

Post by bigun » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:16 pm

Thanks

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Re: Sonora, aka Sierra power outages?

Post by Stuka » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:44 pm

letank wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:36 pm
Do you have power in Sonora... ? of course, a moot question as the internet is probably coming down after 12-18 hrs because the relays are not powered up.
A couple of friends are visiting and they may have to alter their plans. I know that Grass Valley and Nevada city are in a black out since 4am wednesday morning, gas stations and restaurants are closed in Grass valley area

here is the official map

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 316348&z=9
Most areas have their power restored now. Hopefully the rest get it back on by tomorrow.
1981 J10 AMC 258 with HEI and Weber 32/36 DGEV Carb, T176, NP208, D44/M23 with 4.56 gears and Detroit Locker, 6" lift, 33x12.50 Cooper STT's, BJ's Offroad Rear Dozer Bumper.
2017 JKU Rubicon Lifted and stuff
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