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Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:58 pm
by 5jeepsaz
unbelievable! this is great stuff. great gauges, especially the markings. You could put the ones in you don't use, wait for later but at least they are installed there. Those are almost too cool to storage. Choices!

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:27 pm
by Pablo
Thanks. I am sure some might not work right and others will need lots of work. The diesel gauge will need to have the direction of cable reversed and then multiplied by 1.5 or something. There are parts out there to do it, but some want and arm and a leg. Then there is hooking it up to the 4bt itself. It will be an adventure... but I think it will be worth it.

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:03 am
by Pablo
Twin stick has arrived:

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HVAC unit is not getting here till after the holidays.

I will be visiting the Jeeps this holiday and hope to have progress pictures of the actual build. Will also be moving the parts Jeep and take off parts to my home and will start cataloging parts that I wish to keep sell/keep...

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:06 pm
by 5jeepsaz
This is a great build

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:43 am
by Nevadachief77
Did you ditch the factory heater box?

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:22 am
by Pablo
Nevadachief77 wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:43 am Did you ditch the factory heater box?
It is long gone. Turbo and tube sits in the general vicinity now.

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:58 am
by Pablo
So, progress occurred during the Christmas break. Considering the state of the world, I am antsy do get her running before WWIII/Civil War/ Pandemic 3.0, Armageddon, depression, climate change, space aliens, a deadly asteroid or whatever other pile of crap is coming toward the fan.

Speaking of fans, all the fans that worked with the horton clutch were so huge that clearance with the super duty steering box up front was an issue. So we had options:
  • Ditch the horton.
  • Move the steering box and use a bigger fan.
  • Use a custom made fan that would fit with the steering box where it was at, but possibly not move enough air with the big horton blocking all but 3.5 inches of fan blade.
The second and third options were not in the cards for our timeline, so the Horton is out for now and we are using a Chevy fan blade and clutch that we had laying around. I will revisit the Horton at a later date.

We got the following done:
  • Made up a fan shroud and attached fan blade/clutch.
  • Installed AC compressor
  • Measured for a belt and installed it.
  • Made a battery box to hold up to dual 31's. It fits into the driver side fender.
  • Made up some hydraulic hose to connect hydroboost brake master to power steering pump.
  • Acquired and mounted a power steering reservoir.
  • Burned in the final axle spring perches/rests on the rear axle.
  • Got brake lines mostly connected. Missing some connectors that no one had in the metro area.
  • Fabbed up intake piping and silicone sleeves for turbo / CAC. Installed CAC and radiator.
  • Figured out a plan for exhaust piping, dumping behind passenger rear tire. I wanted to go to the rear, but we may have shock clearance issues if we do that.
  • Have some rough plans for shock hoop mounts. The front fender is simple enough. The rear gets more complicated. I am not willing to have the shock hang down unless its right by the tire (aka JK). We may cut the tub and extend the wheel well to make room for a shock hoop mount that doesn't sacrifice too much length or clearance. Otherwise, the mount will be by the tire.
  • Ordered front driveline. The front driveline will be the same length as the rear one, so they are interchangeable, which is nice.
She almost ran and moved under her own power, but we were missing some brake connectors. Also we were waiting on the hydroboost hose from the hydro shop.

I am held up by the lack of a Vintage Air unit, we are going to have heater hoses and ac lines that we cannot finish until that gets here.

No pics right now, but I am going back soon and will have pics then and maybe a video of her moving.

There is still a long way to get her done, but moving under her own power and stopping and steering-- that will be a very good thing.

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:08 pm
by Pablo
Vintage Air HVAC box has finally shipped...

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:39 pm
by Pablo
Well, it lives. Started it up today.

HVAC Box is here too.

We are on track for running down the road by mid-April.

Edit: LOL. That didn't happen.

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 4:39 pm
by Pablo
So April... well that didn't happen... Currently waiting on shocks. Everything is back-ordered. The air they put in the bubble wrap packaging is also back ordered. The electrons that are used to send you this post were probably also on back order.

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 5:17 pm
by devildog80
Wish they could back order the 100*+ temps.......

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 4:11 pm
by Pablo
Well, the temps are here, but at least the shocks and wiring harness parts are here too. :)

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 7:14 am
by jaber
So glad I'm up off the valley floor, I had to deal with 90° weather this week...

And where's the new pics???

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 1:24 pm
by Pablo
The exhaust is pretty much in, the shock mounts are done and the shocks installed. A custom trailer hitch was built and installed. So the Jeep may be bringing its parts Jeep friend home up the mountain very soon.

As for pics. Well Jabber... the new pics and video are missing since the Jeep is in the Valley and I am not.

I was trying to make a trip to get the parts Jeep and take pics of the built Jeep, but the fire danger this year forced me to bring up a dump trailer instead. Clearing the dead fall from around the house has been a priority these past two months and I have worn out many a chain on the chainsaw. I didn't think I had so many overgrown Juniper on less than 3 acres, but apparently I did. I probably still have 25 yards of downed trees to get out of here and lots of stumps to dig.

This upcoming week the basic wiring will be redone. I don't want it to burn to the ground with the original '64 wiring, so we are building off a hot-rod harness to make the basics work. The original headlight plugs broke off in my hand when I took the headlamps off back in 2013. I think they were made of bake-lite. Maybe it was plastic, but it crumbled apart and came off the lamp plug in pieces. I don't really trust the rest of the wiring insulation enough to make it home. If I remember correctly, the insulation on the wiring going to the rear lights was actually cloth :o .

So this week is basic brake, headlight, turn signals and basic gauges: EGT, temps, and boost. Oh, we have to put the Vintage Air back in and hook up the AC lines. Then we slap the front doors back on and start test rides and order/fit tires.

It has been a long road, but at least it will drive again soon.

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 3:49 pm
by jaber
It's always exciting to get the first run in. Would love to make it over one day to see it.

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 1:07 pm
by devildog80
Nice it is coming along.

My own FSJ project is just starting, but not "starting" is an issue right now.

Hoped for the best, but getting the worst, and hanging in there no matter what :)

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:14 pm
by Pablo
Status:

So test drive 1:

it was stuck in 2.72 to 1 low. Top speed, 35 mph. Now fixed and missing doubler shift lever finished and hooked up.

Oil leaks from turbo return... loose fittings. Fixed.

Test drive 2:

Rag joint gave up.

Doors still need to be put on. Brake light still needs to be hooked up. Turn signals work, headlight works. No gauges except a temporary water temp gauge.

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:19 pm
by Yeller
Awesome! Nothing like a test drive to bring that breath if fresh air and add revitalization to a project.

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:09 pm
by Pablo
Test drive 3:

Fuel lift pump leak. Warrantied out... now we wait some more.

Re: 65 Waggy 4bt swap

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:09 pm
by Pablo
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So the shifter's are installed and bent to clear each other and the old bench seat. They are super easy to get to and I don't have to shift seating position to grab them.

The twin stick for the 205 is JB Fab ordered from Bronco Graveyard. We used a random shift knob from Autozone to put on a stick to control the Magnum doubler/underdrive. The Magnum shifter rod was just custom bent rod and mechanism made out of shop scrap.

The boot cover's to these shifters are not installed yet and we probably need to clearance the sheet metal a bit more before doing so.

Torque is stupidly abundant. Putting the Magnum in underdrive while leaving the transfer case in rear wheel high will let you let out on the clutch in 1st and even if you stand on the brake-- the engine will not stall with the tiny roller tires. It will drag the front axle along with the short race sticky tires squealing as they drag over the asphalt and bounce. I doubt that happens with the 37's though.