New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

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New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by profbrown » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:33 pm

Hello All,

Just picked up a new to me Jeep Wagoneer on what I think is a pretty solid deal considering what all it has. Its a white 1968 Jeep Wagoneer, factory A/C model. I don't know much about the old ones, but this one must have been a loaded option, had the Buick 350 factory, A/C, power rear window. Other than that, idk what options it has. Current drivetrain is stock axles, dana 27 front, dana 44 rear, 4 wheel drum (upgraded to power brakes), Chevy 350 small block, soon to come out ;), a 700r4 overdrive trans, and a dana 20.

The interior was just recently done from the previous owner, as well as the power brakes, and rewiring the headlights, taillights, and turn signals. Probably shouldn't have, but I drove the jeep 60 miles the first night I bought it lol. Lost the battery on the highway headed south in California at night so no lights to speak of at all lol. Swapped in a battery in an autozone parking lot and was on my merry way. Needless to say I am in love with it! And the Fiancé is a fan too! Pictures to come....
1968 Wagoneer | In the midst on an LS Swap to a 5.3 truck motor
700R4 Trans, Dana 20 T-Case
Sitting on 31s
Dana 44 rear | Dana 27 front


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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by profbrown » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:38 pm

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1968 Wagoneer | In the midst on an LS Swap to a 5.3 truck motor
700R4 Trans, Dana 20 T-Case
Sitting on 31s
Dana 44 rear | Dana 27 front

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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by Stuka » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:28 am

Pretty clean looking Waggy.

What are your plans for the engine?
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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by profbrown » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:05 am

Stuka wrote:Pretty clean looking Waggy.

What are your plans for the engine?
Body is straight, and NO rust. Only part of the body that had love in the past was the passenger rear quarter panel, my guess is a blow out or fender bender, but I was only able to tell by getting under it to see the bondo underneath the panel. Someone did that fix and took some time.

Ls swap. 350 is coming out this weekend, and a 5.3 will be going in pretty quickly after. First ls swap so it’ll be fun. Would have been more expensive to rebuild the 350.


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1968 Wagoneer | In the midst on an LS Swap to a 5.3 truck motor
700R4 Trans, Dana 20 T-Case
Sitting on 31s
Dana 44 rear | Dana 27 front


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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by Mreuther12 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:12 am

Awesome looking Waggy! Congrats!


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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by madmikex3 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:23 pm

Looks great! I see lots of road trips to come.


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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by will e » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:54 pm

Welcome to the board. You will find a lot of great info, some good tech insight and a lot of enthusiasm for your adventure. That's just a flat out good looking rig. I hope you have a lot of fun driving it around while getting smiles and thumbs up!
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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by Rory » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:57 pm

Any pics of the transfer case? I was going to go the advance adapter route to put my Dana 20 behind the 700R4. Interested in what the front driveshaft clearance is going to look like.
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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by profbrown » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:04 pm

Rory wrote:Any pics of the transfer case? I was going to go the advance adapter route to put my Dana 20 behind the 700R4. Interested in what the front driveshaft clearance is going to look like.
No pics, but I know it has an adaptor


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700R4 Trans, Dana 20 T-Case
Sitting on 31s
Dana 44 rear | Dana 27 front


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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by rocklaurence » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:44 am

Since your doing a Drive Train swap, I'd consider swapping the axles to post 1980's. That way you'll have better axles/brakes and the option for a NV231/241 transfer case on the driver's side. Very nice start on a Classic Project


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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by profbrown » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:14 am

rocklaurence wrote:Since your doing a Drive Train swap, I'd consider swapping the axles to post 1980's. That way you'll have better axles/brakes and the option for a NV231/241 transfer case on the driver's side. Very nice start on a Classic Project
Yeah I’m not swapping out the whole drive train lol. Just motor. The 700r4 was in it when I got it and is staying in. My plan is to find a front disc brake dana 44 from a later model Cherokee/wagoneer to put up front then it’ll be beefy enough for me. I won’t be doing any serious wheeling in it. Most of it will be used for snow/rainy conditions where I live, and easy going trails. If I was really wheeling I would have gotten an XJ honeslty. Smaller, more maneuverable, and far more parts availability on the cheap.

Eventually, maybe in 10 years it’ll get a different transfer case and driver side drop swap, but for these tires being 31s, the axles I have are good for now


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700R4 Trans, Dana 20 T-Case
Sitting on 31s
Dana 44 rear | Dana 27 front

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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by 44bz » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:37 pm

A later Dana 44 will be six lug so you’ll be mismatched front and rear. You’d also likely have mismatched gearing. Probably easiest to swap both axles at the same time.


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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by profbrown » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:45 pm

44bz wrote:A later Dana 44 will be six lug so you’ll be mismatched front and rear. You’d also likely have mismatched gearing. Probably easiest to swap both axles at the same time.


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Dang that’s a real bummer.

On a side note, I may be pulling out this 700r4 in favor of a 4l60e.


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1968 Wagoneer | In the midst on an LS Swap to a 5.3 truck motor
700R4 Trans, Dana 20 T-Case
Sitting on 31s
Dana 44 rear | Dana 27 front


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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by rocklaurence » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:04 am

Ouch, I $400 trans controller for the 4L60e is a large investment unless its part of the LS ECM.


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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by profbrown » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:17 am

rocklaurence wrote:Ouch, I $400 trans controller for the 4L60e is a large investment unless its part of the LS ECM.
Yeah I was looking to go Holley terminator for this ls swap, only think I am throwing the budget out the window for. They have one that can control 4l60es. That was however, before I did more reading. It was early 4l60s not 4l60es that share the same conversion kits to make it mate to the Dana 20 transfer case I have. So back to the original plan, 700r4, drive by cable throttle body, and ls 5.3. Pulling the 350 out this morning, and dropping it off to the buyer who is on my way to get an ls lol


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1968 Wagoneer | In the midst on an LS Swap to a 5.3 truck motor
700R4 Trans, Dana 20 T-Case
Sitting on 31s
Dana 44 rear | Dana 27 front


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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by profbrown » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:37 pm

Out with the old. Prepping for the new. Image
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1968 Wagoneer | In the midst on an LS Swap to a 5.3 truck motor
700R4 Trans, Dana 20 T-Case
Sitting on 31s
Dana 44 rear | Dana 27 front


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Re: New to me 1968 Jeep Wagoneer

Post by profbrown » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:58 pm

Today did some more tinkering. Pulled all 4 shocks off, all were beyond toast. Also, put the tailgate window weather strip in. Was a bit odd, but got it figured out.

Since I got the Jeep the tailgate did not operate. Electric motor was not in the tailgate itself, and I had a couple extra motors the previous owner was collecting. Well, through a moment of stupid luck, I found the pieces I was missing from one of the motors! The gear that spins off the worm gear, and the gear with the post that operates the whole mechanism.

Also, pulled the axle casting numbers off the housings, appears i have factory 3.73 gears, and I’m pretty sure it’s a factory tow package Jeep as well. I plan on swapping the rear diff fluid eventually and I’ll look to see if it’s an open diff or not.

As far as a Dana 44 for the front end with a disc brake set up, what year ranges would work? Would a Chevy Dana 44 front work? I know I’ll deal with axle shafts being different bolt patterns, but just looking to see what would fit since it would be nice to sway to disc and get a stronger front axle than the (assuming here...) weak Dana 27.


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1968 Wagoneer | In the midst on an LS Swap to a 5.3 truck motor
700R4 Trans, Dana 20 T-Case
Sitting on 31s
Dana 44 rear | Dana 27 front

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