84 Grand Wagoneer Revival

[devildog80]

Well.....its official, it is a 401 but serial # plate on valve cover missing, and when getting the windows closed to the top today, I turned the key to start.....just to see if it still worked after sitting 10+ years, and it actually kicked in and engine turned.

Only had jumper cables from Gramps my CJ5, to just battery cables on Pig, but that was encouraging. Need to clean out gas tank/lines/new filter/replace carb (Mongo228 had a new MC2150 he donated...thank you) etc, then will get a battery in it and fire it up.

Window switches and door lock switch all work on drivers door, drivers seat will move forward but then not backwards, front seat tilt works up & down but back of seat...no, all lights outside seem to work as designed except rear red side markers (maybe bulbs), rear window works up & down with dash switch and rear key switch. Tailgate latch needs greased up as it is a bit stiff.

Found front door panels, new in box arm rests, window and door seals with OEM labels on them, OEM jack and wrench.

Misc boxes of other parts pieces of the previous 360 that was in it including 4 bbl intake, heads, alternator, (2) air pumps, (2) power steering pumps, brackets, new gasket sets, filters, hardware kits, rear driveshaft, spare auto transmission....TSM, Hayes Manual, multiple issues of 4x4 magazines, FSJ magazines, original owners manual with registration/insurance cards......on and on. It truly was Christmas in April out there

Also found out the truck has had an over spray of same color, so paint is not original.
So, give me some time to see what I will need, and want to keep, then might have some stuff for sale. Probably more towards fall I think.

[2nd Day]

Congrats, saved my 87 GW in March so your in good company.

I'd be interested in knowing what parts you have. What'd you use to clean up the engine?

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[devildog80]

2nd Day

Just power washed the engine, getting the 10+ years of AZ dust off of it, and finding not a lot of greasy/oily spots on it.

Looks like they did a good job on the rebuild, as PO said only 2,000 miles on it after rebuild, so pretty fresh. Looks like new exhaust too all the way back.

I anticipate there will be some small issues here and there, when we get it running and driving again, but to be expected after sitting so long in this desert environment.

Parts wise, see the generic list above, and message me what you are looking for. Heavier parts like heads or intake not cost effective to ship from AZ to VA, unless you have someone here AZ local to pick up.

Do not know real condition yet, as we just know they are in the parts pile, so let me verify they are serviceable. Would not want to say they are good before verified, as good parts for these old trucks are hard to find, and the money to buy them sometimes harder to find.
I will not do that to anybody, and expect the same in return.

I will be putting what I do not need, when I get through it all, on this forum classifieds for sale. Make sure to message me, so I can find you easier when time to move the extras, and I will touch back with you before posting. Like I said above, probably this fall before I really will know what is ready to move.

[2nd Day]

2nd Day

Just power washed the engine, getting the 10+ years of AZ dust off of it, and finding not a lot of greasy/oily spots on it.

Looks like they did a good job on the rebuild, as PO said only 2,000 miles on it after rebuild, so pretty fresh. Looks like new exhaust too all the way back.

I anticipate there will be some small issues here and there, when we get it running and driving again, but to be expected after sitting so long in this desert environment.

Parts wise, see the generic list above, and message me what you are looking for. Heavier parts like heads or intake not cost effective to ship from AZ to VA, unless you have someone here AZ local to pick up.

Do not know real condition yet, as we just know they are in the parts pile, so let me verify they are serviceable. Would not want to say they are good before verified, as good parts for these old trucks are hard to find, and the money to buy them sometimes harder to find.
I will not do that to anybody, and expect the same in return.

I will be putting what I do not need, when I get through it all, on this forum classifieds for sale. Make sure to message me, so I can find you easier when time to move the extras, and I will touch back with you before posting. Like I said above, probably this fall before I really will know what is ready to move.

Will do thanks. Mines definetly rougher as it came from NC.

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[devildog80]

Hey....anybody know where outside front Grill mounting screws can be sourced from, for my '84 Grand Wagoneer?

Aside from the suspicion they might be in the parts stash in the back of the truck, looking for the lower ones that come in through the front of the truck, along bottom edge.

Sure I can find something at FLAPS or hardware store, but have not found them on any of the FSJ parts sites online yet, with nomenclature description to go buy more. Might just use brass wood screws for now, to hold it in place until I can find correct ones.

[devildog80]

Found this out today, that Grand Wagoneer/4 wheel drive emblems are not placed correctly.

One of earlier PO's probably put them on after respray, but not where they should be, as my rig has "Grand" on rear outside corners, and "Wagoneer" over "4 wheel drive" on front fenders.

Another item to correct.....and at least I have the emblems to work with.

"For 84-86, it takes 2 script letter "Grand" and 2 block letter "Wagoneer" and 2 block letter "4 wheel drive" emblems. The GW emblems go on the front fenders with "Grand" centered over "Wagoneer". The "4 wheel drive" emblems go above and just forward of rear side lights. On the tail gate, pretty sure the left side has the RW&B AMC logo Jeep emblem and the right side has the block letter "Select-Trac" emblem. In 87 they changed the emblems which stayed the same through 91."

[jpswapmohn]

Welcome to the group. I did notice the emblems placement in your first pictures. I didn't know the emblems for the GW changed in the mid-80's. Good to know. The 401 is a nice bonus! I hope it is solid and works well for you. I guess PO lost interest for some reason along the way? Maybe 401's weren't as hard to find back when they did the swap. Door skins, extra parts, etc. sounds like they had a plan but never executed.

I use IMGBOX for photos, or post through Tapatalk on my phone if I want to toss a few pics into a post. Looks like you broke the code on that mystery though.

I have bought old rigs from AZ before. Great for metal and glass, not so much for rubber, cloth, plastic. I would plan on replacing all rubber hoses/fittings.

Keep us posted and enjoy bringing it back to life!
b

[devildog80]

Thanks for the support, and we pulled everything out and looked through the boxes already, finding new door seals, brake pads, hardware sets, the front door panels, etc, so need to pull it all out again and take pics and catalog everything to see what we do not have.

Window motors are weak, and of course seals are near gone, and some of the switches don't work. That will be some of the delicate work needed, to get those pieces/parts refurbished and working, and try not to break anything that is hard to find for replacement.

Yep, the PO was on a roll with the truck running/driving, then life got in the way. He parked it in a dirt lot storage, where we rescued it after 10+ years, and now going through everything here. Looks like the engine & drive train is solid, so getting it running I hope will take minimal work, but the interior will be the biggest challenge.

Going to start on fuel system first, replacing all rubber lines, and making sure the tank is all good. Truck has had some off road travels in its life, and gas tank skid plate is hammered up pretty good. Will form that back out and try to look more normal, and see how the tank looks above it.

What is this on fuel line just ahead of the fuel tank along frame?
I listened for an electric fuel pump, did not hear one, and not sure if this is a very small pump, or some kind of fuel metering something.
Manual fuel pump has been bypassed.

Time to learn some new tricks for this old dog

Will keep updates coming.

[akguy09]

Thats an electric fuel pump

[devildog80]

Really? That little guy.....to keep up with a V8?
Looks good for a lawn mower, but a V8?
WOW!!

Well its going to be checked over at least, and cleaned, but just might get replaced with the manual on the block.
If it will work again, I might keep it inline for a line purge pump, to assist starting after sitting.

Probably just gummed up with old gas residue, so might be able to soak the insides and it will work again.

[ScramblerCJ8]

Hi, nice project. The electric fuel pump was a way to overcome vapor lock, specially on hot days or Arizona weather.

[devildog80]

Ok

Near as I can tell, fuel system on the Wagoneers were still using the bypass filter with return to the tank, to prevent vapor lock?

When I look on parts sites it shows the bypass filter, so looking for the return line and get my nose in the TSM I found in the truck, to see what it shows.

Yes AZ weather will quickly verify if you have vapor lock. Went out on trails last summer with our CJ5 - 258, with temps at 114*, and performed flawlessly. Crawling around in 4 low (2-3 mph), 4 blade OEM fan and no shroud, engine temp was between 1/3-1/2 on the gauge.

Hot day but still had fun.

[az chip]

Ok

Near as I can tell, fuel system on the Wagoneers were still using the bypass filter with return to the tank, to prevent vapor lock?

When I look on parts sites it shows the bypass filter, so looking for the return line and get my nose in the TSM I found in the truck, to see what it shows.

Yes AZ weather will quickly verify if you have vapor lock. Went out on trails last summer with our CJ5 - 258, with temps at 114*, and performed flawlessly. Crawling around in 4 low (2-3 mph), 4 blade OEM fan and no shroud, engine temp was between 1/3-1/2 on the gauge.

Hot day but still had fun.

Yes it does. Biggest issue I had was the rubber fuel hose was cracked and sucking air. So was my carb base. I did not see the fuel line cracked until I removed it.

[devildog80]

Well.....it begins

Pulled fuel tank off yesterday.
**NOTE - Had to pull rear driveshaft, just off rear yoke, to allow tank to come out of drivers side frame rail and drop down.
Figured that out after it was found in the way :/

Plastic tank with aluminum skid.

Filler tubes had internal cracks - removed

Rubber supply lines connecting anything from tank to carb - removed

Separated tank from skid plate, and must have had 15 lbs of dirt up around the tank, on topside of skid plate.
Scraped and knocked most of it loose, will power wash clean, before hammering the skid plate form back to where it should be.
Paint before re-install, so it looks nice, as it is aluminum so won't rust.

[devildog80]

I did not hear the electric fuel pump run when put power to the battery cables last weekend, so pulled it just off the frame, filled it with carb cleaner and capped off the ends, remounted to frame and left it soaking.

Must have been working when truck was last driven, as this is only supply pump connected in the system right now, so hope to get it free and working again. I will replace mechanical pump on the block, and if electric pump free's up, will use both.

[devildog80]

More fuel pics

[devildog80]

And.....more fuel pics

[Yeller]

Fuel is such a smelly pain. Nice looking bones though!

[devildog80]

Not sure if we can call this current task lucky, but the tank has been empty so long, it was bone dry. Along with any/all fuel lines related to the project.
Not a single drop of fuel anywhere!
Will be opening up the tank this week, to see how the gauge, float, and inside look like.

[devildog80]

Ok, something found interesting on Pig, when working on him pulling the fuel tank off.

Axles -

Front is SU

Rear is SO, with 4* wedges facing rearward, to pitch the pumpkin yoke down for drive angle.

Is this common practice, or something else?

Please advise