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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by FLeetFox » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:12 pm

OOf on the trans. One of those days when I'm sure you were asking "Must EVERYTHING be this hard??" Feeling your pain.

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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:13 pm

FLeetFox wrote:OOf on the trans. One of those days when I'm sure you were asking "Must EVERYTHING be this hard??" Feeling your pain.

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I think the neighbors heard something !!


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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Sun May 31, 2020 4:55 pm

Just 1 or 2 or 100 small things and it will come to life
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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:54 pm

Well it came to life !
I quickly realized the fear, cooling system air locked due to radiator hose being to high.
Got that fixed for now , it is not a permeant fix.
But it does run !


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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:40 am

Well , after a bunch of searching and trials I am ditching the OLD BJs radiator as finding a good fan and shroud is impossible
I have the original radiator back from the repair guy and will be using the factory fan and clutch for now
The issue is the radiator I picked up for cheap was one of BJs original design and they have changed it considerably since
Sooo here I am again
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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:17 am

Spent some time installing part of the headliner Image
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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:21 am

https://youtu.be/SUIO5ITzKpw

Sounds sweet , I did find an exhaust leak after this but !!


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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by FLeetFox » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:27 pm

welcome back man!

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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by will e » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:49 pm

It does sound sweet. And it's looking good too! I enjoyed the update.
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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:52 pm

Can you guys tell me what these are?
They were in the parts bucket of headliners parts that came with.

I finished the front headliner and installed the go go pedal , was just a go go stub before

Just have to get it to exhaust shop, safety inspection and registration finished


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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by sirrus » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:41 pm

Brown parts are for cargo cover, top 2 go closer to tailgate, bottom piece (should be two) is mounted behind rear seat - they are both screwed to the cargo window trim. No idea about white ones, but they look like another type of cover holders that go near tailgate

Headliner looks awesome, good job!
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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:45 pm

sirrus wrote:Brown parts are for cargo cover, top 2 go closer to tailgate, bottom piece (should be two) is mounted behind rear seat - they are both screwed to the cargo window trim. No idea about white ones, but they look like another type of cover holders that go near tailgate

Headliner looks awesome, good job!
Kind of what I thought , I don’t have the cover so I will set these aside for now

For the headliner I used Quiet Ride sound deadening and insulation kit and BJs Headliner kit , right before Christmas they had the Nutmeg kit , so it only took 8 months but it is installed
I know where 2 mistakes are but it’s not a show truck


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‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:41 pm

So it’s been a minute but as they say Just Empty Every Pocket
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Just about ready to go on maiden voyage outside of the subdivision and fphizlshhhhhhsuirfvc
So now I am waiting on the trans shop and what to do about the transfer case
A few of you saw my thread about the mystery hole in top of transfer case housing


I had thoughts of doing this during the engine rebuild !! But , naaas it’s good let’s go for it !!

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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by FLeetFox » Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:52 pm

Really makes you understand why some people just do an every nut and bolt resto....

hang in there man.

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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:35 pm

I am hanging tough, too close to the finish line , i know there never is a finish line..........
The kindness of another Wagoneer guy, he had an extra 727 and 2 229's
the 727 is finished at the re-builders
i picked the 229 with the most resistance between output shafts in 4 high , 2 of them i could turn in different directions with my hands 1 took large pipe wrenches
AND the mysterious leak in the Transfer case was resolved, on the transfer case about the 2 o'clock position passenger side back main case there is a rubber plug, mine was missing this and as i drove was spouting fluid all over the exhaust i am surprised how much fluid this rubber plug holds in.
I am working out the vacuum to make sure it all works, all the bits and pieces work but they don't work when assembled
meaning when i plug all the connections together and the Shift Actuator ,, apply vacuum and shift the 2wd - 4wd level nothing happens , i know the switch is working i tested that, it switches between the Yellow and Green hard lines, wondering if the blocks where it goes to the steel lines are bad
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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by FLeetFox » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:54 pm

you know, those New Process cases aren't really that tough to rebuild, in case you were thinking. I will offer you this though. when you install it, use threaded rod in the top 2 holes to support the weight of the case from above. "slide" the case along the rods until it seats in the trans output hole. bolt up the side and bottom holes, then remove the rods and put top bolts in.

prevents damaging the input/ output seals, which will leak if crushed.

Most of us work alone, this is an easy, inexpensive method that prevents sadness and thrown tools...

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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:36 pm

FLeetFox wrote:you know, those New Process cases aren't really that tough to rebuild, in case you were thinking. I will offer you this though. when you install it, use threaded rod in the top 2 holes to support the weight of the case from above. "slide" the case along the rods until it seats in the trans output hole. bolt up the side and bottom holes, then remove the rods and put top bolts in.

prevents damaging the input/ output seals, which will leak if crushed.

Most of us work alone, this is an easy, inexpensive method that prevents sadness and thrown tools...

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That’s a good idea ! The dowel rods
I have t been able to find , and I honestly didn’t look to hard, a VC if I was to rebuild it
I have a good 229 now I believe and also stirred up a 242 which I think I would put the money in that where I have 2, 4 PT and 4 FT and 4 low
A SYE and proper input shaft would run me the same if I could find a VC


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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by FLeetFox » Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:14 pm

maybe these pics help illustrate.

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Good luck man. Have Fun.

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Re: ‘83 Brougham Build

Post by MReese Wagoneer » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:42 pm

Nothing new right now to report
I am currently waiting on the converter back from the rebuilders, trans is in the shed and it is about 10` outside so the rebuilder can take a couple more days
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