Added 3" lift, now E-Brake cables too short

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Added 3" lift, now E-Brake cables too short

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1978 J10, Added 3" lift, now E-Brake cables too short.
It appears the rear section from axle brake housing to the "C-clip" that holds it in Frame is about 3/4" too short now.
Haven't looked at BJ's for longer cable part or maybe I'm missing something simple like the adj somewhere will resolve this.
Or is another year cable assm what I need for this?
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I was able to run a 6" lift with the stock cables, they were snug. But a 3" should be easily adjusted for.

If you look up in front of the transmission cross member, you will see where the cable from the pedal comes down and meets the cable that runs to each rear wheel. Where they meet is a piece of all thread with some nuts on it. Adjust those out and it will loosen the cable.
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Stuka wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:05 am I was able to run a 6" lift with the stock cables, they were snug. But a 3" should be easily adjusted for.

If you look up in front of the transmission cross member, you will see where the cable from the pedal comes down and meets the cable that runs to each rear wheel. Where they meet is a piece of all thread with some nuts on it. Adjust those out and it will loosen the cable.
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When I installed my 4" Rusty's lift I need to add extend cables, I got mine from BJ's and they worked like a charm.
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The wrapped cable from. the R- DRUMS the the frame do NOT fit now..
W a 3" lift kit.

I looked it over plenty and pulled it hard to replace clip but the entire thing is now too short.

W and WO a shime to correct for the DIFF angle on 2 degree shim .
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The cables make a Y, and have three parts: the cables to each wheel, the cable from the pedal, and the equalizer cable. One solution might be to extend the pedal cable with some all-thread and a coupling nut. It's probably 5/16"-24... your local hardware might not carry these, but McMaster-Carr does. https://www.mcmaster.com/nuts/coupling- ... ng-nuts-9/

Even with the longer front cable, you may have to move the guides for the equalizer cable (which Jeep calls "clevis") further back. Also a bit cheesy, but maybe workable.
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1978J10REDWHITE wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:42 pm The wrapped cable from. the R- DRUMS the the frame do NOT fit now..
W a 3" lift kit.

I looked it over plenty and pulled it hard to replace clip but the entire thing is now too short.

W and WO a shime to correct for the DIFF angle on 2 degree shim .
Are you saying you adjusted the single cable in front of the cross member all the way out? Typically in a stock config they have 3” or so of additional adjustment. You don’t adjust the cables going to the wheels, but rather the single cable they connect to.
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Can you add a coupling nut to the adjuster rod and some all thread with jam nuts to extent the adjustment?
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What I am experiencing is the cable that goes thru the frame on each side has a Clip, Now I cannot get the Clip on due to the shorter amount of cable. Again Ive stretched it all I can w my hands and it simply need longer pieces from the drums to the Clip location, maybe 1/2" or so.
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Seems like no one here has a quick solution for you.

You will have to move the cable guide bracket further back on the frame, or find longer cables. Possible you could make a bracket that bolts on to the existing mount and moves the anchor rearward.

There are quite a few different cables for Jeeps in this era. What wheelbase is your truck? Model 25 or model 45? It would help to put year/model/equipment in your signature file so it's present with every post. The model 25 cable for '78 is 45.25" long, and 57.25 for model 45. 5357412 and 5357413 resp.

You could look at the parts book and try other numbers, though only some of the parts have lengths listed. The '74-80 parts book is available from RockAuto for less than $25 on CD-ROM. It could help you a lot. Printed copies are also available there, and at BJ's and Faxon.
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Are you trying to connect the cables with the axle hanging at full droop, or at ride height (full weight of the vehicle on the suspension)?
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I just looked at my 4" lift and the cables only make it to the brackets because I took the frame connection loose just before they pass through the frame.
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Yes, the little strap to the frame needs to be disconnected on 4” lifts. That should get you a little more slack.
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I looked it over, there is NO moving the bracket as the cable goes thru the thick frame right where it mounts.

How ppl situations were "OK" on length is confusing to me and my understanding how they did it while adding the lift to rig.
So looks like I need to add a custom Holder piece or MFG an extension piece to secure the cable end.
Not a big deal,
just that how others were OK and my OEM rig was different then almost everyone else's situation is a mystery.
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More of an FYI here.
Today, spoke with some ppl at a cable MFG outlet in S. Calif, they can build New E-Brake cables inches longer, as needed in my app.
$39 Each and have them done and out the door in two days..
Rather simple solution.
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1978J10REDWHITE wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:22 pm I looked it over, there is NO moving the bracket as the cable goes thru the thick frame right where it mounts.

How ppl situations were "OK" on length is confusing to me and my understanding how they did it while adding the lift to rig.
So looks like I need to add a custom Holder piece or MFG an extension piece to secure the cable end.
Not a big deal,
just that how others were OK and my OEM rig was different then almost everyone else's situation is a mystery.
Yeah, I don't understand how yours is having an issue, and how adjusting it didn't help. I ran a 6" lift (admittedly on a shortbed) on my J10, and never changed the cables. They were snug, but worked.

But cool you were able to find new cables for a very reasonable price.
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1978J10REDWHITE wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:39 pm More of an FYI here.
Today, spoke with some ppl at a cable MFG outlet in S. Calif, they can build New E-Brake cables inches longer, as needed in my app.
$39 Each and have them done and out the door in two days..
Rather simple solution.
Who is the custom cable manufacturer? This might help others who are looking for custom length cables. Maybe report back on the quality of the new cables compared to the original cables. Do you have any pictures?

Thanks and glad you found a solution.
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Yes I'm still trying to figure it out why mine were short in the Post Lift install , when Nobody else even with longer lifts has the issue.
Probably someone from this group switched them to wrong cables when I wasn't looking ??

Anyway, buying New and More parts for my Rig makes us guys Happy so it kinda works out perfect,
More new parts for my Truck.- We should be happier there!!


Cable MFG company is https://www.controlcables.com -

Their contact routine is, call this number first, 562-949-0455 to yak with a person directly.
Then, they will tell you to send txt your images over this number, to Ed, 562-286-1630, and give them all the hard copy data details what you have and what you want.
Then after you swap new parts order info they txt back with final drawing and then finish transaction.

I will gladly post pix of new pieces when they show up.
One point they said, their type cable has the spiral metal wrap Under the exterior black sheath.
So I had them add a 6" long jacket slider piece for the area which goes thru the frame - to keep it from wearing or splitting open.

They were the nicest ppl, happy friendly folks to deal with.
Wasn't sure if it was against the rules to post a business info here so I will Modify post if necessary.
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Two new pieces made and received in just 4 days time!!
Notice the 6" sleeve they installed is for where it goes thru the frame, I requested this added in.
Anyway I'm out the door to install new parts ..
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Nice!
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