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Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by mjdriver » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:32 pm

Has anyone used the hell Creek lift springs for a post suspension truck? Where do you get new shackle bushings and u bolts for the front end. Mines got the weird angled u bolts. If I am correct the kit is just springs.

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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by Stuka » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:34 pm

Pretty sure the kit includes bushings and u-bolts. I suggest you call them to verify. You do have to tell them the size of your bushings, as more than one size was used.
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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by mjdriver » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:38 pm

Stuka wrote:Pretty sure the kit includes bushings and u-bolts. I suggest you call them to verify. You do have to tell them the size of your bushings, as more than one size was used.
I'll do that, it shows the springs only in the pic, but for the price they should at least come with bushings. I've checked rear post size as well as rear spring length.

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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by dbabicky » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:27 pm

My 1975 has the post mounts as well. I ordered my 4 inch lift kit from Hell Creek. My springs had the bushings installed in them when I received them, along with u-bolts. I ordered everything from them to include the shocks, drop pitman arm, extended brake lines, everything needed to install the kit. Very happy with all of it. That was about 7-8 years ago.


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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by Phils67 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:32 am

I currently have the HC 4" kit. Springs come with the bushings. As far as early front shackle replacement bushings for the 7/8" posts, good luck finding those. Maybe the 1" post trucks are easier, I don't know. If you somehow find replacement bushings for the 7/8 front shackles let me know. I have yet to find a source for them
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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by 200M » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:59 am

Phils67 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:32 am
I currently have the HC 4" kit. Springs come with the bushings. As far as early front shackle replacement bushings for the 7/8" posts, good luck finding those. Maybe the 1" post trucks are easier, I don't know. If you somehow find replacement bushings for the 7/8 front shackles let me know. I have yet to find a source for them
Do you have a pic of your 4'' lift with 35's? :D
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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by mjdriver » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:53 pm

Phils67 wrote:I currently have the HC 4" kit. Springs come with the bushings. As far as early front shackle replacement bushings for the 7/8" posts, good luck finding those. Maybe the 1" post trucks are easier, I don't know. If you somehow find replacement bushings for the 7/8 front shackles let me know. I have yet to find a source for them
How's the ride? I'm on 33s and it rides better than any other front leaf setup I've been in, the rear is stiff as a board. I'm going to see what I can figure out for the front shackle bushings course mine look shot. There is a local spring shop I might try.

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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by Phils67 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:42 pm

I am not going to say it rides bad because my shackle bushings are completely shot. My front is still incredibly stiff all these years later but it also doesn't get driven much. The rear is bouncy and has been since day one. I don't hate it but I would prefer stock or less lift. I run 35x12.50s and it clears everything clean without any trimming but I also have a 1 inch body lift. My front suspension layout is currently stock (original shackles to the front of the spring), the rear is actually about 6.5" of lift because I am using 88-98 C10 rear shackle brackets and XJ shackles from Iron Rock Offroad. With about 500lbs of stuff in the back the truck sits level. The front has absolutely no flex whatsoever on this thing except side to side due to worn shackle bushings, the rear flexes crazy for a leaf setup. Ultimate goal for me at least is go with coils and long arms eventually up front if I decide to be brave enough to press that "click to buy" button on all of my saved web page parts order forms. Its gonna take alot of beers before I get the spine to pull the trigger on those one night though lol
1967 Gladiator J2000/ 4.0MPI/T18/Twin sticked D20/ locked 44/welded 53/4.27s/4" Hell Creek,35s, pending J20 axles with Detroits and 3.73s/ pending lift kit downsizing and late model spring-under-frame front

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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by mjdriver » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:50 pm

Phils67 wrote:I am not going to say it rides bad because my shackle bushings are completely shot. My front is still incredibly stiff all these years later but it also doesn't get driven much. The rear is bouncy and has been since day one. I don't hate it but I would prefer stock or less lift. I run 35x12.50s and it clears everything clean without any trimming but I also have a 1 inch body lift. My front suspension layout is currently stock (original shackles to the front of the spring), the rear is actually about 6.5" of lift because I am using 88-98 C10 rear shackle brackets and XJ shackles from Iron Rock Offroad. With about 500lbs of stuff in the back the truck sits level. The front has absolutely no flex whatsoever on this thing except side to side due to worn shackle bushings, the rear flexes crazy for a leaf setup. Ultimate goal for me at least is go with coils and long arms eventually up front if I decide to be brave enough to press that "click to buy" button on all of my saved web page parts order forms. Its gonna take alot of beers before I get the spine to pull the trigger on those one night though lol
Dang that sucks, I don't know if you've ever been in a cj5 but my 79 rode so bad (stock springs) it's one of the reasons I got rid of it. If I spend the money on the lift and it rides like my cj5 did I might spaz. But it'll look so much cooler. Another reason I want the lift is ground clearance especially for mud holes and water crossings. What do you think about say 2 inch blocks all around?

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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by Phils67 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:57 pm

I am the anti-block. All spring lift or stock. If you want clearance the 4" Hell Creek lift and 35s will give you more than enough.
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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by mjdriver » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:03 pm

Phils67 wrote:I am the anti-block. All spring lift or stock. If you want clearance the 4" Hell Creek lift and 35s will give you more than enough.
What shocks you running?

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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by Phils67 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:31 pm

At the moment Rancho RS5000s but they are pretty much useless.
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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by mjdriver » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:19 pm

Phils67 wrote:At the moment Rancho RS5000s but they are pretty much useless.
I mean length wise

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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by Phils67 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:18 pm

I don't remember. They weren't for the truck/lift combo per say. I called rancho and gave them my front and rear eye to eye measurements at full drop and full stuff and they told me which ones to order
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Re: Hell Creek off-road j2000 lift

Post by mjdriver » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:24 pm

Phils67 wrote:I don't remember. They weren't for the truck/lift combo per say. I called rancho and gave them my front and rear eye to eye measurements at full drop and full stuff and they told me which ones to order
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