This is the first of many probably dumb questions but...
Patient is "Roscoe" 1982 Wagoneer Limited that has been sitting since 2013.
This project, replacing EVERYTHING in the braking system, except the proportioning valve and power booster....
Brake bleeding procedure references the "special tool" to hold the valve open when bleeding. Is there a work around this, bleed the brakes and disregard the step or ?????
Thanks in advance!
Brakes...
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Moparmikeo
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Brakes...
82 Wagoneer Limited, A/K/A "Roscoe"
Was: brown metallic/Nutmeg
Now: Turd brown house paint/Nutmeg
Was: brown metallic/Nutmeg
Now: Turd brown house paint/Nutmeg
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tgreese
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Re: Brakes...
The tool is a bent piece of steel with a slot that holds the valve stem. I just made one. Maybe it's needed, maybe not. Likely you can buy the tool if you search for it.
If the TSM says you need it, I would not question it. The TSM was written as a reference for dealership techs (mechanics), and they would not include unneeded extra steps that would take more time.
Just FYI, replacement combo valves are available.
If the TSM says you need it, I would not question it. The TSM was written as a reference for dealership techs (mechanics), and they would not include unneeded extra steps that would take more time.
Just FYI, replacement combo valves are available.
Tim Reese
Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS/PDB, hubcaps.
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Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
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Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS/PDB, hubcaps.
Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination A/Ts, 7600 GVWR
Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
Dual Everything: '15 Chryco Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk, ECO Green
Blockchain the vote.
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Stuka
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Re: Brakes...
In my experience, you only need the special tool if bleeding the brakes the old fashioned way (with a person pushing the pedal). I have never needed to hold the valve when using a mighty vac. But, your mileage may vary.
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tgreese
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Re: Brakes...
I have a pressure bleeder (not fancy but workable), and used the tool. Dealerships have a high-end pressure bleeder that they would use for this.
Tim Reese
Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS/PDB, hubcaps.
Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination A/Ts, 7600 GVWR
Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
Dual Everything: '15 Chryco Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk, ECO Green
Blockchain the vote.
Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS/PDB, hubcaps.
Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination A/Ts, 7600 GVWR
Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
Dual Everything: '15 Chryco Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk, ECO Green
Blockchain the vote.
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Stuka
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Re: Brakes...
Oh, true. The pressure bleeders would also need to use the tool.
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will e
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Re: Brakes...
I use speed bleeders. Love them.
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82 Cherokee WT - SOA/SF/high steer/Alcan springs/agr box/Borgeson steering shaft/AMC 401/performer/holley TA/HEI/BeCool/727/ALTAS (2.0/2.72/5.44)/D60 Snofighter(Yukon Zip,hubs,stubs,4.56)/14 Bolt (FF,BF shave, Discs, ARB,Artec Truss)/MTR 37X12.5/Corbeau XRS Baja & 5 point retractable harness/Hella Aux lights/tuffy console/killer32 sliders/Evil Twin bumpers, rack and roll cage/WARN 8000/TT Fabworks steering brace/dual batts/custom TC skid plate/ARB fridge