1984 Grand Wagoneer Hood Latch Springs

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1984 Grand Wagoneer Hood Latch Springs

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What years are inclusive for hood springs?

Found these on ebay, but says they do not fit my truck

Jeep Grand Wagoneer Hood Release springs, OEM J0972970. SPRINGS ONLY.
$24.99 a set
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What does if these don't?

Do I take my one good spring and head to Ace Hardware?

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'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
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Re: 1984 Grand Wagoneer Hood Latch Springs

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From the picture you are showing, that doesn't match up with the part number you are referencing. The part number you are referencing is for the small spring that is mounted right there on the hook of the hood lock bar assembly that has a tendency to disappear or go bad also. The spring in your picture you are referencing is J0963336. Sorry for not using very technical terminology for these springs. I am looking at some factory parts books, so I could get the part number, and not the technical service manual that gives the actual technical term for these springs. I only opened up my 81-86 and 87-90 Factory Parts Manuals and they had the same part numbers for those hood springs. I am sure if I looked back in my older parts manuals, the same spring is used further back.
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Re: 1984 Grand Wagoneer Hood Latch Springs

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I did not find the part number yet for the ones I need, so running a little in the dark with that.

The info I posted is all from the ebay post. So seller has bad info?

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My safety catch is also wonky, as seems only attached on left side of the DS latch, but not seeing where it needs something to get it solid.
Anyone have a clear close up pic of the DS latch assembly for reference?
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
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Re: 1984 Grand Wagoneer Hood Latch Springs

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963338 is a Jeep factory part number from the 60s. I suspect the J0 prefix was added by Chrysler to separate Jeep parts from their other lines. It's still a Kaiser-Jeep origin number.

This suggests to me that you could use the springs from any year J-truck or Wagoneer/Cherokee/GW. Looking at the '62-73 parts book, that number does indeed go back to the beginning of these vehicles. Seems impossible that the aftermarket would have duplicated this part, and I'd think you are very unlikely to find it in NOS somewhere. Advertise in the WTB ads here, and you'll likely get plenty of offers for used replacements.

The safety catch with cable release is something that started in the 80s. There are parts books online that cover this era on the Tom Collins site. Look there to find the part numbers, though again I doubt any replacements exist other than used parts. This is from my '82 -
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You could search for that little spring, but I expect the hardware store will have a spring that will work fine.
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Re: 1984 Grand Wagoneer Hood Latch Springs

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As one of my hood latch springs broke, after bringing the truck home, I would like to go with new springs.

Sure I can find a comparable spring that will do the job.

My safety catch.....looks just like yours, and spring is good, but latch seems to only be attached on that left side just like yours shows.
It does not have anything attaching it on the right side, which does not seem correct, but everything looks like it was made that way?
Just has the one rivet on the left side to rotate on, and does not stay aligned with the slot in the truck, when closing the hood.
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'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
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Re: 1984 Grand Wagoneer Hood Latch Springs

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No connection to the passenger side. The cable releases the main catch on both sides. The hook on the safety catch goes through the hole in the core support. Pull the cable, the main catches release and the hook on the safety hold on the driver's side. Walk around to the front and release the safety, and raise the hood.

Seems foolish to search for a new work-alike replacement for that spring, but suit yourself. Re the safety, nothing else there but what you see. The pin goes through the safety catch and the latch assembly. If what you have is bent or loose so it will not line up, I'd look to replace the whole latch assembly, including the bar and both spring catches and the safety catch. Again, plenty of sources for a used one, and it's not something that will be in great demand.
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Re: 1984 Grand Wagoneer Hood Latch Springs

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Not denying to use springs made for the task, just looking for options, at less cost that work.

And the hood latch function as a whole is not in question.
Speaking only how the safety latch is connected to the drivers side latch.
I only have the single rivet on the drivers side latch-inboard side, that holds it on the mechanism.
With only the one rivet attaching it on the left side of that DS hood latch, when I work the safety catch, it is really loose and wobbly.

I will get some pics of mine, that looks just like yours, so maybe I just need to replace or figure out to tighten it up a bit on the one rivet.
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
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Re: 1984 Grand Wagoneer Hood Latch Springs

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On mine, that rivet goes all the way through to air on the driver's side. It's also the pivot for the main latch, and has a spring wrapped around it that holds the main latch closed. When you pull the cable, the long bar rotates and turns that pin. This pulls the catch back and releases the cone-shaped catch that's in your first picture.

The safety catch is held tight by that pin to the side of the main latch, and does not wobble. I expect if your safety catch wobbles, the pin though the main catch has been loosened somehow either by wear or prying to get the hood open.
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Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination A/Ts, 7600 GVWR
Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
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Re: 1984 Grand Wagoneer Hood Latch Springs

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Yes that all makes sense, and the safety catch latch was/is bent up a bit.

Thanks for confirming the mounting, as I thought it should not be mounted like it was.

Looks like I have some repair work at least, or replacement of the safety catch!
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), MC2150 HA Comp, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
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