Removing stubborn dash knobs ??

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Removing stubborn dash knobs ??

Post by Laredo Matt » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:58 pm

Ok, I feel dumb for having to ask but.... I'm stripping my 83 Laredo and have a few dash knobs I can't figure out how to disconnect.

The vent pull knob on the right of the steering column. I spent about 30 minutes today and finally sliced my thumb open on the sheet metal behind the dash trying to get it out. Is there special took required? I've gotten behind the dash, tried everything and don't want to break it.
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On left of steering column (driver side door), same question for the headlight switch.
Dash 2a.jpg
feels dumb to have to ask but haven't been able to figure them out :banghead:
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Re: Removing stubborn dash knobs ??

Post by Chubbinius » Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:06 pm

Not certain it will be the same as on my 1970, but looks like on the light switch you can use a small screwdriver to loosen the slotted lock nut that can be seen against the edge of the silver bezel (dark ring with the two slots). The bottom of the switch will usually also have a small button you depress and then can pull the shafts with the knob off.

Good luck
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Re: Removing stubborn dash knobs ??

Post by Laredo Matt » Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:06 pm

Chubbinius wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:06 pm
Not certain it will be the same as on my 1970, but looks like on the light switch you can use a small screwdriver to loosen the slotted lock nut that can be seen against the edge of the silver bezel (dark ring with the two slots). The bottom of the switch will usually also have a small button you depress and then can pull the shafts with the knob off.

Good luck
I'll give that a try tomorrow. Been in the garage all day and end with a shot of PB blast on the body mounting bolts. gonna let that air out before i go back in.
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Re: Removing stubborn dash knobs ??

Post by 80Limited » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:27 am

There are two tabs that have to be squeezed together from behind the dash to pull the cable out.

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Re: Removing stubborn dash knobs ??

Post by tgreese » Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:34 am

80Limited wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:27 am
There are two tabs that have to be squeezed together from behind the dash to pull the cable out.
This is for the vent cable. From memory, I was thinking the knob does not come off. The whole cable assembly comes out of the dash.
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Re: Removing stubborn dash knobs ??

Post by Laredo Matt » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:17 am

tgreese wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:34 am
80Limited wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:27 am
There are two tabs that have to be squeezed together from behind the dash to pull the cable out.
This is for the vent cable. From memory, I was thinking the knob does not come off. The whole cable assembly comes out of the dash.

So much for my belief I had pretty good grip strength :roll:

I tried the "squeeze really hard and push" approach more than once with no luck. I'll just try harder tonight and stick with it until I get it.

thanks for the feedback
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Re: Removing stubborn dash knobs ??

Post by tgreese » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:02 am

You might get a mirror and a flashlight and take a good look at the backside before you try again. Even if you can't see what you are doing, it usually helps to have a mental picture of what you're working on. It may also inspire some helpful tool or approach.
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Re: Removing stubborn dash knobs ??

Post by Laredo Matt » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:50 am

All knobs have been successfully removed without damage.

last piece fighting me is steering column. Everything disconnected. Getting the steering shaft to release from the u joint where is proving even more difficult. Been spraying with PB Blast and hoping that would help but nothing yet. I guess I'll have to strip out power brake unit and master cylinder to try and get a better position and hold on the u joint and try and separate the column.

If that doesn't work, time for a new thread on removing steering columns.

I see how minor fixes and upgrades can quickly devolve into "i've gone this far, I might as well ..." and take months and in some cases years!
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Re: Removing stubborn dash knobs ??

Post by letank » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:06 am

usually the knob the physical knob breaks off from the rod

I suspect that you cannot remove the knob element with the bezel, it is a claw behind the dash, so 2 tabs that need to be squeezed toward the center of the cable, you can use a hose clamp to tighten the claw from open to close

As for the steering column, someone may have put some locktite, usually they pop out without any effort, or it has been damaged as in a slight bent
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Re: Removing stubborn dash knobs ??

Post by Laredo Matt » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:14 pm

I ended having to disconnect the intermediate shaft at the steering box and take the entire thing out as one piece. Still haven't figured out how to disconnect the steering shaft from the u joint yet but I'm a long way from re-assembly so not going to to worry about it now. Am also planning to do a steering box upgrade at some point so would have had to deal with it sooner or later.

Agree, my experience is they should come apart fairly easy. bought it a little over a month ago. A PO did an LS Swap about 3 years ago so I'm pretty sure it was out then. Looks a little rusted but not that crazy so scratching my head.

Oh well, it's out and I can continue stripping down and have some time to think about it.
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