Wagooner 1965 's rebuild

tara · Post by **tara** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:07 am

hi guys,

we are beginning the engine rebuild with my mechanic. looks like parts are not so bad. inside it was a huge mess water, grease every thing looking like mud. gonna install new piston rings, new timig chain and gears, new water pump, top end will be check valve seats and straightness. all seals and gaskets changed of course.

44bz · Post by **44bz** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:58 pm

Nice progress! My 327 was similar when I opened it up - dirty, greasy, and full of sludge. Make sure your mechanic pays attention to the rocker shaft bolts. Two of them are hollow and need to be first in line (rear of the engine). That's how the rockers get oil, it's pushed up through the hollow bolts.

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tara · Post by **tara** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:50 pm

44bz wrote:Nice progress! My 327 was similar when I opened it up - dirty, greasy, and full of sludge. Make sure your mechanic pays attention to the rocker shaft bolts. Two of them are hollow and need to be first in line (rear of the engine). That's how the rockers get oil, it's pushed up through the hollow bolts.

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no worries thanks

by the way is it normal that there is only one baffle above the valve tappet oil chamber ???? it is located on the side of the firewall

44bz · Post by **44bz** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:09 pm

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no worries thanks

by the way is it normal that there is only one baffle above the valve tappet oil chamber ???? it is located on the side of the firewall[/quote]

Yes, just the baffle over the back half-ish.

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tara · Post by **tara** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:34 pm

hi guys,

finally, engine fired today after rebuild, it sounds quite nice. but now i have to deal with other issues : i have to change the radiator which seems clogged. i have look at all the dealers, and cannot find my year.
another issue is that the breather tube has a leak at its base, i saw this morning some light oil at the base, and i was able to turn it. how can i fix that ?
any suggestions ?

thanks
Tara

44bz · Post by **44bz** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:03 pm

I don't think you can buy one new anymore. Somebody on ifsja.org had a late 70s straight 6 radiator in front of their 327 that fit almost exact I think. Otherwise, take some measurements and find a match or have a rad shop freshen it up, that's what I did.

What breather tube are you talking about? The pcv, the oil fill? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

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tara · Post by **tara** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:11 pm

Yes the oil filler

44bz · Post by **44bz** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:53 pm

My spare tappet cover spins too. I'm not sure if there is a fix for that. I haven't looked into it.

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tara · Post by **tara** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:14 pm

i think this one should fit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252035031405?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

tara · Post by **tara** » Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:00 am

ok, bearings, valves, valves seals, piston, rings, water pump... all is installed, lets go for a ride

tara · Post by **tara** » Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:01 am

by the way is it the engine number ?

infortunatly this part broke, what do you suggest ?

44bz · Post by **44bz** » Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:31 am

The aluminum tag on the alt bracket is the engine ID. As far as the broken tab on the crossover pipe I don't know if it can be repaired since its cast? I think there are a couple used ones on eBay right now or ask on the amc forum maybe. Good to have a spare anyway.

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tara · Post by **tara** » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:59 am

i have noticed that the propeller shft boot is broken, is it difficult to find the part ?

mud89 · Post by **mud89** » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:24 am

tara wrote:by the way is it the engine number ?

The tag seems to come from another engine ?
609G03 => 287 ci (G) from september (09) 1964 (6) according to this decoding infos : http://street2mud.com/webfiles/AMC%20Engine%20codes.pdf
287 and 327 have different bores

tara · Post by **tara** » Sun May 01, 2016 11:48 am

hi guys,

i have never talk about this issue, but when the starter engage and turn the engine for just a second, and then the engine fires, leaving the starter motor doing a kind of odd noise like a dog screaming (lol).
any idea ?

thanks
Tara

tara · Post by **tara** » Tue May 03, 2016 5:57 pm

hi

i have too to upgrade the front brake with disc, i notice that many kit seems similar but have little differences, can you tell me which one is the good ?
thanks
Tara
http://www.the-jeep-guy.com/BRAKE%20Fro ... %20(a).JPG
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231225690020?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
http://www.bjsoffroad.com/1963-1973-Dis ... p_277.html

j20brett · Post by **j20brett** » Wed May 04, 2016 1:04 pm

The starter issue sounds like the solenoid is hanging. Get a new solenoid and it should be fine.

tara · Post by **tara** » Wed May 04, 2016 1:20 pm

is it the right starting motor ?

44bz · Post by **44bz** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:27 pm

That's the gear reduction starter. The original is a prestolite. It's kind of bullet shaped and weighs a ton.https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... mrc&uact=8

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tara · Post by **tara** » Thu May 05, 2016 9:26 am

44bz wrote:That's the gear reduction starter. The original is a prestolite. It's kind of bullet shaped and weighs a ton.https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... mrc&uact=8

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rockauto sells this
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php ... &jsn=10536

which one is the best ? mine newer model or the original remanufactured ?
is there a test to do to know if the solenoid is bad ?

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