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Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:27 pm
by AwesomeJ10
I've been running a chinese 8000lbs winch on the Honcho for several years now without failure. It's probably been used about 100 times and it works great.
I recently purchased this 12000lbs winch for $250 bucks:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-12V-120 ... b3&vxp=mtr
My buddy got a similar one, but it cost a little more because it had synthetic rope rather than steel cable.
Both of our new winches seem to work great and they both come with wireless remote (in addition to wired remote).
Just thought I would pass this along to make people aware that you don't have to spend $1000 on a Warn winch, the chinese ones seem to work just fine. I'm actually considering picking up a couple more of them and figuring out a way to mount two of 'em on the front of the Honcho, then using the existing one on the rear.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:55 pm
by 68glad
OMG your gonna die. You must spend $1000 min to get a "good" winch. I wouldn't buy that chineese crap. It won't be worth it when you need it most and it fails. What else am i missing?
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:00 pm
by AwesomeJ10
68glad wrote:OMG your gonna die. You must spend $1000 min to get a "good" winch. I wouldn't buy that chineese crap. It won't be worth it when you need it most and it fails. What else am i missing?
LOL
that about sums up the stuff I read on Pirate!
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:01 pm
by 90supra
68glad wrote:OMG your gonna die. You must spend $1000 min to get a "good" winch. I wouldn't buy that chineese crap. It won't be worth it when you need it most and it fails. What else am i missing?
I think you forgot something about how the Chinese manufactures are ripping off the original
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:28 pm
by Stuka
Well, I would not compare this thing to say, a 12k Warn. But for the price, its hard to go wrong. Their 12k is probably equivalent to a 9k Warn, and probably wont last as long before breaking.
But if you are like me, and you don't winch very often (Hell I never winch as I do not have one
), its perfect.
I have been really wanting an 8274, just cannot justify the cost of it. It blows away every other winch out there on speed and pulling power, and build quality. But I could literally buy SEVEN of these for the same cost.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:22 pm
by AwesomeJ10
yeah, the trusty old 8274 is definitely the best winch out there. I had one that came on my '80 CJ5 (first vehicle). I sold it years ago and sure wish I hadn't. It was MUCH faster than anything else I've seen.
Here is a pic of my 'champion' 8000lbs chinese winch that I got used from another vehicle, so I really don't know how old it is. This pic was taken 4 years ago and it's still going strong.
pic taken 2 years ago.
chinese winch pulled the Honcho sideways up the hill.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:20 pm
by Tatsadasayago
Sure beats the daylights out of a come-along hand winch or the dreaded Hi-Lift jack used horizontally as one. That is tedious!
I'd drop 250.00 for one and feel it was worth it if needed it and it got me out of a predicament then immediately died.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:22 pm
by ghcoe
I love the Chinese stuff bashing. Keeps the price nice and low. If you do your research you can get good quality Chinese stuff. I have three Chinese four wheelers, that I have had since 2008 and now two Chinese scooters. I love them! If U.S consumers could really see how they are being taken for a ride they would be totally shocked. But hey, we live in the biggest, the fastest, the next best thing, look at me and what I got, society. My eyes were opened about 10 years ago. Say what you want about Chinese, I'll by my Chinese stuff direct and be happy, while others buy their Chinese stuff with a different name on it and think they are better than everyone else.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:35 pm
by ProTouring442
A lot of the time, it isn't "bashing."
Ask those who have purchased steering columns under the Helix, AutoLoc, Proheader, Wysco, and CCP brands. The tilt section of the steering shaft is totally sub-par and has led to several people suddenly finding their steering wheel is no longer tied to the steering box.
I'm not saying the winches on Ebay aren't any good, only saying that you must be careful with things Chinese.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:57 pm
by ghcoe
That is what I am saying. You have to do the research. Sometimes it is not that easy because of all the generic bashing going on. What you are showing is hard proof of sub par. When I see bashing and no evidence then I take it as a grain of salt.
China has some of the newest and best manufacturing machinery in the world. The problem is that Americans don't want good stuff they want cheap stuff. So the good stuff goes to other places and the cheap stuff comes here and breaks. Then we say "its cheap Chinese stuff!". Well.....Yes! It is cheap Chinese stuff. You can get good Chinese stuff, you just have to look for it. It will cost more than the cheap stuff we are use to, but it will still be quite a bit cheaper than mainstream products. Sometimes it is the same thing as the mainstream products just there is no middle man.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:02 pm
by ProTouring442
ghcoe wrote:That is what I am saying. You have to do the research. Sometimes it is not that easy because of all the generic bashing going on. What you are showing is hard proof of sub par. When I see bashing and no evidence then I take it as a grain of salt.
China has some of the newest and best manufacturing machinery in the world. The problem is that Americans don't want good stuff they want cheap stuff. So the good stuff goes to other places and the cheap stuff comes here and breaks. Then we say "its cheap Chinese stuff!". Well.....Yes! It is cheap Chinese stuff. You can get good Chinese stuff, you just have to look for it. It will cost more than the cheap stuff we are use to, but it will still be quite a bit cheaper than mainstream products. Sometimes it is the same thing as the mainstream products just there is no middle man.
I have other issues with China, but I understand what you are saying.
On the other hand, I kind of like buying Taiwanese stuff.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:03 pm
by ProTouring442
ProTouring442 wrote:ghcoe wrote:That is what I am saying. You have to do the research. Sometimes it is not that easy because of all the generic bashing going on. What you are showing is hard proof of sub par. When I see bashing and no evidence then I take it as a grain of salt.
China has some of the newest and best manufacturing machinery in the world. The problem is that Americans don't want good stuff they want cheap stuff. So the good stuff goes to other places and the cheap stuff comes here and breaks. Then we say "its cheap Chinese stuff!". Well.....Yes! It is cheap Chinese stuff. You can get good Chinese stuff, you just have to look for it. It will cost more than the cheap stuff we are use to, but it will still be quite a bit cheaper than mainstream products. Sometimes it is the same thing as the mainstream products just there is no middle man.
I also have other issues with China, but I understand what you are saying.
On the other hand, I kind of like buying Taiwanese stuff.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:24 pm
by rocklaurence
Yep, I've been running a HF Chinese winch for 15 years [when they first came out]. And yes, the magnets came off one day but I glued them back on [Really]
I've run with guys that have the 12's and they never gave them problems. Plus, the Mags have run Winch-Offs over the years and the Cheapies win every year
However, if I needed one for work and used it routinely, I'd pay the extra and buy a Warn/Ramsey etc.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:09 pm
by Gumby
I agree with rock on rock on this.... I'm waiting to buy one on the sale over the Summer. I think I may get the 12k just in case, especially for the price why not.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:55 pm
by ghcoe
Yeah, I probably will too some day. Got to get the lift and the front receiver set up first. Then it will be a HF receiver hitch winch mount and a winch.
I have a friend of mine that has the 12K on a big hauling trailer. Been out in the weather for 10 years and always works when it needs to.
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:40 am
by AwesomeJ10
FYI here is an 8000lbs winch with synthetic rope that's up for auction with free shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Limited-Edition ... 1477710211
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:36 am
by Lumpskie
Another Option is Craigslist. WARNs sell in the $200s all the time out here. I bet this guy would take $250 in a heartbeat.
http://cosprings.craigslist.org/tls/4830488140.html
Older Option that you could probably get for under $100
http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/4804709002.html
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:07 am
by AwesomeJ10
I heard that the majority of Warn components are chinese too.
Is that true?
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:08 pm
by Lumpskie
The VR series are manufactured in China, but the M series and Xeon(?) are still US made. From what I hear, the VR series are pretty good, though. (Who knows, maybe that's what your Chinese winch is... a rebranded VR?)
Re: Cheap chinese 12000lbs winches on Ebay for ~$250
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:26 pm
by AwesomeJ10
It auctioned for $313 Not bad for an 8000lbs winch with synthetic rope.