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These are the current version of those wheels:

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/s ... reId=10001


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I can't access the back of my shed or I'd get a pic of the same wheels that I have. They were off a '77 Blazer I parted.
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oh neat, so the 15x10 wheel will fit? I know someone said the one in the movie was 15X10 but I just want to make sure...
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MarshallTheFox wrote:oh neat, so the 15x10 wheel will fit? I know someone said the one in the movie was 15X10 but I just want to make sure...
Provided you have at least a little lift, yes. 33x12.50s will rub a little with no lift and a wheel that wide.
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thats about what I figured, and after looking at tire choices it will be better to go with the 8 instead of 10. Thanks for the help
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For the most part I'm just going to let the pictures do the talking on this post, but one thing I didn't get a picture of was the needle bearings on the outer axle shafts... which weren't really bearings anymore they were rather just chunks and flattened out pieces of metal packed together with dirt, oh and the grease inside the hubs looked and felt literally like semi solid hersheys chocolate. So here is my front axle in all its splendor!

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Passenger side
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Both sides inside the housing look identical
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and here is a brake pad that was kind of just... sitting there on the passenger side while I was taking the whole thing apart
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on the bright side all new parts are coming within a few days so it wont be in neglect for much longer!.... But this brings up a question for me, right now it has the 3.56 gears and one of the rings has a big chip in it. Im wondering if I should get a replacement or if I should re-gear it to perhaps 4.10? It wont ever see much of over 60mph and I'll be running 31" tires with the TH400 and Qtrac. I wouldn't know which combination would be optimal for my situation because I wont be hauling a whole lot but I'd like for it to be able to haul things well when I need it to.
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Was the brake pad or caliper not installed correctly? I have never seen that before.
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Caliper was on correctly but the pad was....well it was literally just sitting there with one end where it should have been and the other was... well obviously not. I have utterly no idea why it hadn't just flown or fallen out when it had every reason to do so. The side of the rotor it was on has only about a 1.5mm of meat left on it and was worn evenly. There are just some things that were bad on this jeep that should have gone very wrong but didn't and its very amusing. Only other thing wrong on the side that the pictured brake pad was on ( braking system wise) is the rotor dust/dirt shield looks to have been ripped off. Lots of whys and hows I have had go through my head through this whole tear down.
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Went in to finish looking at the Quadratrac carnage today and was not disappointed!. Lets relive what I looked at today...
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VV This is cleaned off by the way VV
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VV ARE YOU KIDDING ME.... what?! just... WHAT?! (The other side is actually halfway through the pin) VV
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and the only picture I'm really happy with that I took today...
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Please excuse the amount of utter garbage in the shop but I cant get rid of it so I have to work around it :|
Im just happy they are making new parts for the QT. Hopefully I can get my hands on some before long
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Wasnt to happy after work so I went to fiddle with the jeep to relieve some stress so I finished taking out the pinion mate shaft from the diff sprocket in the quadratrac and... well here it is. (sorry if the picture is huge)
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Anyone able to tell me how this could have even started happening to it? or has anyone on here seen something like it before? surely even just a little ground off the thing isn't normal in a used case.
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Last one I saw like that had no oil in it and the guy was stuck and spun the tires till they blew!
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Wow, that thing must have made a hell of a racket when it was driven.
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I need to stop procrastinating. Time to get back on this! So apparently I have a two piece leaf spring plate but only have one of the pieces...
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What is the specific years that I need to look at for finding replacements? perhaps one piece replacements? Cant use the ones I have even if i wanted to (and I dont) because the one on the right is bent and the one on the left is.... well just look at it that crap is scary and the holes arent even spaced right, they welded two pieces of metal together and look to have blow torched the holes out and proceeded to very crappily weld on what I think are sway bar mounts.

Not much progress has been made recently other than replacing some bearings in the rear axle, which I'm glad I didnt skip out on.
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I mainly came here to ask a question today. Earlier while at work my dads old work buddy asked me about my jeep and what I had gotten done on it. I'll spare the small talk, he told me he had a Jeep dana 300 and if I wanted it he would just give it to me. Now I'm sure I already know the answer everyone will give, but would you take the 300 and swap out the output shaft on the turbo 400/ go to a different trans. or keep and repair the QuadraTrac. I know of the front driveshaft clearance problem but what other things have to be modified if anything to get the 300 to work.
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MarshallTheFox wrote:Wasnt to happy after work so I went to fiddle with the jeep to relieve some stress so I finished taking out the pinion mate shaft from the diff sprocket in the quadratrac and... well here it is. (sorry if the picture is huge)
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Anyone able to tell me how this could have even started happening to it? or has anyone on here seen something like it before? surely even just a little ground off the thing isn't normal in a used case.
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Well its been a while since I last posted on here. The J truck has been nickel and dimeing me as per usual. I told myself I was going to replace any part that would have the possibility of giving me problems, and so far the parts that I tried saving just turned out to be crap after a closer look. I had many pictures of the whole front end assembly process but my phone decided to format the SD card without my consent so I only have these after pictures.

Also if someone could tell me if I have the brakes clocked right. The manual shows it on the opposite side but I dont think it has enough room to fit there. (this is driver side)
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Rear axle still needs a new ring and pinion but with my work schedule its hard to get the time to run it over to a shop to have it done, I get weekends off and the shops are all closed on the weekends :|
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Caliper sits on rear of D44. Is the bleeder at top or bottom?

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Bleeders need to be on top to let out air.
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Re: 79 J-10 Twister revamp

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Alright I see what I did, I was just checking for clearance to the wheel. Looks like I put the passenger side on the drivers side. The calipers still need a rebuild and are coming back off anyways. Atleast the mounting support is clocked right so I'm not a complete screw up :D
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Makes for shorter lines, too. ;)
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