Hid light help

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Re: Hid light help

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PM sent.

To do it right you need some molded plugs instead of individual terminals. If your going to do it do it right.

There's a lot more to this than relays if done right but it can be done. Like anything else there is junk & good relays. there's also some options.

we'll talk.
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I didnt get it?

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hutcho wrote:I didnt get it?

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did you get the 2nd one?
1980 Honcho 258 4 speed mostly stock with 4 " lift.

WIP

You know the rude dude from IFSJA


1980 Cherokee wrangled & mangled
MSD complete system
Eddy intake
Holley 650
Comp cam 270H
4" Rusty's
Ramsey 12K winch
208
Built to drive not sit in the garage.


No longer strangled. I didn't build it for anyone else.
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I got your phone number. Gonna have to call ya later tonight or tomorrow. At the zoo with the family.

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N/P you also have an email
1980 Honcho 258 4 speed mostly stock with 4 " lift.

WIP

You know the rude dude from IFSJA


1980 Cherokee wrangled & mangled
MSD complete system
Eddy intake
Holley 650
Comp cam 270H
4" Rusty's
Ramsey 12K winch
208
Built to drive not sit in the garage.


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If you can't improve it why waste your time?
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Re: Hid light help

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I am personally using a power distribution center from a factory 4.0L XJ. It works very well, wired in very easily. It's got a lot of fuse spots as well as 6 relay slots, IIRC. I had to keep two relays from the factory harness for the fuel pump and the ECU. That leaves two spots for headlight relays (which can be fused right there as well), a potential electric fan relay and at least one more. Standard Bosch relays are among the most dependable you can get, and designed to fit the OEM box.

Much cleaner setup than anything you can piecemeal.

I'm sure there are aftermarket setups that accomplish the same thing, this happened to be in the FI harness already so I utilized it.


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Sounds like a pretty slick setup. Pics?

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Wagoneerlover had a pretty good thread started over on IFSJA:

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=161344

That is the PDC I used. I don't have any pics of my setup, mine is not all that pretty at the moment, just functional.

This thread has pretty much everything you could want about the stock wiring and sources for pins, connects, etc. for the 4.0L PDC.

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=163530

The PDC itself should be pretty easy to come by...I got one from a '94 XJ (with the rest of my FI stuff) but I believe Jeep used them in just about everything in the early 90s. I imagine the later model stuff has something similar as well.


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Serehill pm sent your way again.

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Slightly off topic, but does anyone here have experience restoring the factory fog lights? Mine are all rusty inside.. but I still gave the OEM covers, so it'd be a shame to trash em..
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nester wrote:Slightly off topic, but does anyone here have experience restoring the factory fog lights? Mine are all rusty inside.. but I still gave the OEM covers, so it'd be a shame to trash em..
Start a new thread. That has nothing to do with this topic.


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Cecil14 wrote:
nester wrote:Slightly off topic, but does anyone here have experience restoring the factory fog lights? Mine are all rusty inside.. but I still gave the OEM covers, so it'd be a shame to trash em..
Start a new thread. That has nothing to do with this topic.


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It wasn't intended to be rude, though looking back it may have come off that way. It'll just be easier for people to see your question if you start a new thread. And it's rude to hijack someone else's. ;)


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:D No worries.

Perhaps we just need a thread that covers the general betterment of lighting quality for the FSJ. Most lumens for the buck. My only thought was since light minded individuals were already here, they might shed light on my query.
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Re: Hid light help

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Cecil14 wrote:
hutcho wrote:Looking at a used light setup and wondering if its worth the cash. He says its led and comes with the lights (square) and boxes (assuming they are relays?) What is this worth or is it even worth installing? I will try and post pics.

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LED is NOT HID.

That looks like a pretty cheesy HID setup, indeed. As the others have mentioned I would skip to the next one.

I've been looking for quite a while and have yet to find a good HID setup. Like Pyro said, you REALLY want projectors to do HIDs correctly. Sure, a lot of people have done without them, but they are in no way even comparable to a good projector setup.

I'm still running the stock stuff for now, as I've yet to find anything worth the expense to replace is. The newer LED headlights look pretty promising, but they're still really big money at this point.


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this, I made the mistake of buying a set of the drop in HID kits, it was $30 or so, figuring it would be worth at least that much......they were not.

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nester wrote:Slightly off topic, but does anyone here have experience restoring the factory fog lights? Mine are all rusty inside.. but I still gave the OEM covers, so it'd be a shame to trash em..

I took mine off and put them in a box. I installed the lights i currently have
using the same wires and hookups for the stock fog lights, so no rewire:)
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Here you can see where I used the stock brackets to mount
the lights. I used the existing wiring and switch to operate
them, only took a few minutes and these little dudes are


***BRIGHT***

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Not a bad deal for ten bucks :)
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Re: Hid light help

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HowardT64 wrote:Here you can see where I used the stock brackets to mount
the lights. I used the existing wiring and switch to operate
them...
Does the stock setup use a relay of any sort or is it similar to the headlight circuit, routing all the power inside? I'd be hesitant to hook up anything higher power than the stock lights (headlights or otherwise) without using a relay. The old wiring, especially running inside, is just a sketchy deal.


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I am not sure, I would have to look at a schematic. So far I have
no issues as the lights come on and I do not see a change in the
volt meter. I do need to adjust them, they kinda point different
directions:)
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Late models are relayed controlled.

I had 2 tiny sets of those when I got mine & they did seem bright.
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In the rebuild I decided to go with the here comes the sun type.

Now they're bright. But not ten dollars.
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The factory Marchall lights have a lot of cool factor to the OEM crowd. Restoring them are very popular & have a great following for such an underrated light. Everyone has the right to like what they want. If you like them you can scrounge parts to restore them. I sold some restorables for 20 bucks last year. I don't use mine on road so I could care less how much too bright they are to some. But then again they are yours & need to fit your needs & pocket book. How really bright do you need on the road?? My HID takes care of that. Mark the OP of this thread is a good guy I highly doubt he has a problem with you jackin it LOL.

I have slightly digressed.

Then you'll be good.
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1980 Honcho 258 4 speed mostly stock with 4 " lift.

WIP

You know the rude dude from IFSJA


1980 Cherokee wrangled & mangled
MSD complete system
Eddy intake
Holley 650
Comp cam 270H
4" Rusty's
Ramsey 12K winch
208
Built to drive not sit in the garage.


No longer strangled. I didn't build it for anyone else.
If you can't improve it why waste your time?
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