trouble with Howell TBI install on 86GW
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:19 pm
Hi all. I want to start by saying i'm not all that smart or high tech. Ive had my 86 GW about five years and had a few issues but ive been getting it squared away over time. Just turned 90K miles and overall clean truck and its been running well, but wanted to improve cold starts and drivability so others could drive it as its my regular daily car now. I read howell was good reliable and "plug and play"...maybe i shouldve stayed within my limitations as the 2150 was running good but anyway...no turning back now i guess.
I spent Monday doing install after lots of prep work and it seemed to go ok. ive spent the last four days trying to figure out why its running so lousy and really rich.
Ive checked the voltage and connection to ignition/start and its ok
I re ran both fuel line and vent back to tank and checked pressures. pressure into TB was 14 so i opened it up and turned adjuster screw in TB 6 turns and tried it and then 2 more, and not much better but injectors improved. They had been shooting a spray and also a dripping like a faucet in middle of each injector (at idle) and would barely run now mostly just the spray from injectors and will idle but poorly. . no real pressure on return line so that seems fine.
fuel tank top vents are new.
Checked routing and replaced PCV valve and check for leaks.
I replaced the EGR valve and there was no washer (it wasnt original one) so tried it without washer and then with a few different washers and its seems to idle better with a #45 not sure how else to get right size washer.
I have checked o2 sensor and connection although pretty fouled from rich condition i guess.
I have a newer distributer with the Gary Boyd write up ignition upgrade w TFI, and bigger wires etc.
Ive shortened and checked MAP sensor plugged to port on TB back between fuel in and out lines.
im a little confused about white wire to negative side of coil. I check to see if it has current and it does but don't know how to test that one properly for the (tach signal?). Howell tech assistance said to replace ECM which i did and it made no difference. I have called the a few times this week and they've been great but i think they're tired of me now.
Ive gotten 12 code consistently and once got a code 44 but thats gone now.
starts fine. it idles poorly and seems to cycle up and down a bit. it runs really rich blowing smoke from tailpipe. it will rev up but seems to fall apart under a load.
it runs better with one injector unplugged.
could it be a bad O2 sensor even though it was new from them? if i disconnect it it doesnt change anything or show any code.
any help is appreciated thanks.
1986 Grand wagoneer with 360 and automatic transmission.
I spent Monday doing install after lots of prep work and it seemed to go ok. ive spent the last four days trying to figure out why its running so lousy and really rich.
Ive checked the voltage and connection to ignition/start and its ok
I re ran both fuel line and vent back to tank and checked pressures. pressure into TB was 14 so i opened it up and turned adjuster screw in TB 6 turns and tried it and then 2 more, and not much better but injectors improved. They had been shooting a spray and also a dripping like a faucet in middle of each injector (at idle) and would barely run now mostly just the spray from injectors and will idle but poorly. . no real pressure on return line so that seems fine.
fuel tank top vents are new.
Checked routing and replaced PCV valve and check for leaks.
I replaced the EGR valve and there was no washer (it wasnt original one) so tried it without washer and then with a few different washers and its seems to idle better with a #45 not sure how else to get right size washer.
I have checked o2 sensor and connection although pretty fouled from rich condition i guess.
I have a newer distributer with the Gary Boyd write up ignition upgrade w TFI, and bigger wires etc.
Ive shortened and checked MAP sensor plugged to port on TB back between fuel in and out lines.
im a little confused about white wire to negative side of coil. I check to see if it has current and it does but don't know how to test that one properly for the (tach signal?). Howell tech assistance said to replace ECM which i did and it made no difference. I have called the a few times this week and they've been great but i think they're tired of me now.
Ive gotten 12 code consistently and once got a code 44 but thats gone now.
starts fine. it idles poorly and seems to cycle up and down a bit. it runs really rich blowing smoke from tailpipe. it will rev up but seems to fall apart under a load.
it runs better with one injector unplugged.
could it be a bad O2 sensor even though it was new from them? if i disconnect it it doesnt change anything or show any code.
any help is appreciated thanks.
1986 Grand wagoneer with 360 and automatic transmission.