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Might check youtube?
Also check TSM parts list for each, and if they are the same, should show the same part number. Or maybe a dimensional view to see if all points line up for mounting and size?
'81 CJ5 Base, 258 I6, MC2100, T176 4 spd, 300 TC, D30 Front NT, 3.31, 2-Piece AMC 20 rear NT, 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
'84 Grand Wagoneer, 401 V8 (.030 over), Edelbrock clone 1406, 727 auto, Selec-trac NP229, AMC 20 REAR - D44 FRONT - WT 3.31, 4" high arc spring lift
Rather be driving, than waiting to be modified
T, is correct the windshield must be removed to access the 5-6 screws that are hidden under the windshield gasket , and no you cant have easy access to them as there at the base of the glass, 2 the speedo cluster has to come out to reach the nuts that hold the front of the pad to the dash frame as their is no room on top of the cluster, also the glove box has to come out to reach the nuts on the pax side, once removed you probably have to drill a few more holes, that dont exsist, for the later model crash pads, all said you will see the original dash with the added hole for the crash pads. i removed mine to repair and cover mine
the wind shield i had removed and reinstalled by a guy who does this for a living at his day job , side work 100.00 bucks, but i removed all the glass and trim for the paint job,so there wouldnt be any paint mask peeling later
oh the retaining nuts are called pall nuts ,stamped out type you probably have seeen them before just didnt know what they were called,oh one lat thing you may have to lower the a/c to reach the pax side nuts , i removed my a/c to clean the evap. coil,it was packed with debris, just and fyi
Thanks for the replies. That's crazy that the windshield has to come out to get to the screws but the pictures don't lie. Thanks for posting those Srdayflyer. The dash is coming out anyway as I'm going to use a Vintage Air Gen V and put the outlets in the dash. Looking at Wim's build thread gave me some ideas on how to do mine. I'm updating the dash and interior to be nicer and more functional since it'll be used as touring vehicle for us so that's why I'd like to update the dash pad. We do a lot of road tours and it'll be seeing a lot of miles.
I assume you realize the Grand pad covers the area in front of the passenger. I don't like it but to each his own. I don't like the Cherk dash much either which is why I upgraded to the early dash.
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'84 GW with Nissan SD33T, early Chev NV4500, 300, narrowed Ford reverse 44, narrowed Ford 60, SOA/reversed shackle in fornt, lowered mount/flipped shackle in rear.
SJTD wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:53 am
I assume you realize the Grand pad covers the area in front of the passenger. I don't like it but to each his own. I don't like the Cherk dash much either which is why I upgraded to the early dash.
Yes I do. That's the main reason for doing this. It looks more eighties compared to the Cherokee dash.
I can be done without the windshield but you gatta cut the vinyl where it meet under the gasket.
Ive removed two of these.. and they were already cracked apart from under the windshield.. so it was actually 100% wasye of time to remove the windshield
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9L Limited 219k
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 I6 laredo 430k
1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer 155k
1976 Jeep J10.. 85k(repaired)