MadMax78 wrote:I'm with you candyman. If FCA sells Jeep to any outside company I am done as well. I don't see them them doing this though. Jeep is their bread and butter. They are idiots if they sell it.
You mean like the Wagoneer? A four door station wagon that looked nothing like a Jeep and was marketed to women?Tatsadasayago wrote:I believe the Jeep brand died when they put out a vehicle that was fairly indistinguishable from the others. I only knew the new Cherokee was a Jeep by the emblems. I suppose I don't care if some Chinese outfit buys the brand.
At least the Wagoneer still had legitimate off road ability and options such as PTO and electric winches, snow plows etc.Stuka wrote:You mean like the Wagoneer? A four door station wagon that looked nothing like a Jeep and was marketed to women?Tatsadasayago wrote:I believe the Jeep brand died when they put out a vehicle that was fairly indistinguishable from the others. I only knew the new Cherokee was a Jeep by the emblems. I suppose I don't care if some Chinese outfit buys the brand.
Last weekend I lead this convoy with my 2014 Cherokee TH across 1100miles, 300 of which was double track, washboard or mining roads. We went to the White River National Forest, Fantasy Canyon, Dinosaur National Monument, Green Mountain (Wyoming, north of Rawlins), all the way into the hinterlands in the path of totality for the eclipse. Remember, pics never do the trail justice.Kaiserman wrote:
New Jeeps are junk econo boxes with no legitimate off road or work ability. The the sole exception being the Wrangler.
Not bashing your rig at all. I am very curious to see how these newer jeeps hold up loooong term. Will they still be functional and have value in 20-30 years? For me it's more the fact that much of them, while generally well engineered, are made of plastics and lighter/ fairly automobile duty parts. Plastic tends to break down over time and become brittle. Light duty components may last, may not. May simply require more maintenance as they do start to wear out... I honestly can't say. I'm curious to find out. I wonder if in 50 years there will be a website for those who are collecting and restoring their 1st gen renegade or compass...?REDONE wrote:Last weekend I lead this convoy with my 2014 Cherokee TH across 500 miles, 100 of which was WY double track and another 40 was WY washboard. We went to the White River National Forest, Fantasy Canyon, Dinosaur National Monument, Green Mountain (Wyoming, north of Rawlins), all the way into the hinterlands in the path of totality for the eclipse. Remember, pics never do the trail justice.Kaiserman wrote:
New Jeeps are junk econo boxes with no legitimate off road or work ability. The the sole exception being the Wrangler.
You don't have to like new Jeeps, but mine did everything a stock 1979 Cherokee Chief Widetrack could do, and it got 32mpg doing it. I felt bad for all those straight axles across the washboard too. I had to stop every so often to let them catch up, and I felt like I was going slow!
Now that's just depressing... probably not untrue but still a sad thought.REDONE wrote:In 50 years, I don't think car enthusiasts will be a thing. I think they'll be regarded as the racists of the time for their willful destruction of the environment and covetous gluttony. That's assuming there's still a society to be a part of and we haven't nuked ourselves yet.
Are you kidding? I love to drive...when there's no traffic. In 50 years there will be over 12 billion people, at least. That's a LOT of stupid traffic if people are still driving cars.tedlovesjeeps71 wrote: Now that's just depressing... probably not untrue but still a sad thought.
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Not if a nuke event happens, global pandemic, or zombie apocalypse....REDONE wrote:Are you kidding? I love to drive...when there's no traffic. In 50 years there will be over 12 billion people, at least. That's a LOT of stupid traffic if people are still driving cars.tedlovesjeeps71 wrote: Now that's just depressing... probably not untrue but still a sad thought.
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Just think though, you won't go on a cruise to the Caribbean, you'll go on a cruise to F***ING JUPITER. Or we'll all be dead. One or the other.
Nah, I was referring to the new 2014-2017 jelly bean shaped wanna-be-Kia looking 'cars'.Stuka wrote:You mean like the Wagoneer? A four door station wagon that looked nothing like a Jeep and was marketed to women?Tatsadasayago wrote:I believe the Jeep brand died when they put out a vehicle that was fairly indistinguishable from the others. I only knew the new Cherokee was a Jeep by the emblems. I suppose I don't care if some Chinese outfit buys the brand.