Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby Phils67 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:40 am

candymancan wrote:I have a Zj and a wagoneer.. and two ZJ hitchs and a wagoneer hitch... The ZJ frames are 1.2 inch further apart. Also ZJ frames in the rear are flat and straight.. wagoneer frames curve up so a zj hitch would also have like an inch gap where the last bolt goes..

A ZJ hitch wont work unless you cut it in half and add 1.2 inch of 3.16th steel to it.. And tbh i wouldnt trust the hitch after that.


The wagoneer hitch i have is an older drawtight i believe where you have to drill mounting holes in the frame.. Its cut and welded up at an angle on the ends to be flush with the frame..


Thanks for the info. Do you have a part number for that wag hitch? I work at a trailer place but the only option i found was a universal weld together style or MAYBE a late 2000s GM. I eventually want to buy a dump trailer since i can get a good discount there. I need a hitch that can handle about 10k
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89 MJ
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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby fulsizjeep » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:42 am

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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby berettajeep » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:45 am

Last summer when my 2A died on the beach (Ended up being the electronic distributor.)
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2 weeks after that it threw a rod bearing. Been dead ever since. :(

Recently towed it to our new house but didn't get a picture.
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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby fulsizjeep » Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:48 pm

berettajeep wrote:Last summer when my 2A died on the beach (Ended up being the electronic distributor.)
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2 weeks after that it threw a rod bearing. Been dead ever since. :(

Recently towed it to our new house but didn't get a picture.
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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby Phils67 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:59 pm

Where do you people find all these solid old wags!?!? I need one badly
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Past Jeeps:
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89 MJ
91 YJ
98,98,98,99,01 XJs
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03 KJ liberty
06 Commander
Half of a M715
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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby jaber » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:21 pm

We keep them out of the salt... ;)
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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby candymancan » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:52 pm

Phils67 wrote:
candymancan wrote:I have a Zj and a wagoneer.. and two ZJ hitchs and a wagoneer hitch... The ZJ frames are 1.2 inch further apart. Also ZJ frames in the rear are flat and straight.. wagoneer frames curve up so a zj hitch would also have like an inch gap where the last bolt goes..

A ZJ hitch wont work unless you cut it in half and add 1.2 inch of 3.16th steel to it.. And tbh i wouldnt trust the hitch after that.


The wagoneer hitch i have is an older drawtight i believe where you have to drill mounting holes in the frame.. Its cut and welded up at an angle on the ends to be flush with the frame..


Thanks for the info. Do you have a part number for that wag hitch? I work at a trailer place but the only option i found was a universal weld together style or MAYBE a late 2000s GM. I eventually want to buy a dump trailer since i can get a good discount there. I need a hitch that can handle about 10k




I dont sadly.. its solid as a rock but its all lightly surface rust coated so any stickers it had are gone.. but i know its a drawtight and beefy as hell.. Has to be a 6500+ lbs hitch.

They dont make em anymore though. The only one who makes the hitch i know of is BJs offroad.

But like everything on bjs its overpriced big time.. I think they want 350$ for it.. which is a joke. Personally id never shop at bjs due to their greed on prices.

Took me a year ina half to find a non rusted wagoneer hitch.. Usually they are completetly eatin away.. or they are those tiny 3500 lbs class 2 or 3 hitchs.

Where are you located if your closeby i might sell it Im in Virginia
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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby Phils67 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:28 am

jaber wrote:We keep them out of the salt... ;)


I need to move lol
Big Ugly 1967 J2000 4.0MPI/T18/D20/locked 44/welded 53/35s
Past Jeeps:
77 Cherokee S
89 MJ
91 YJ
98,98,98,99,01 XJs
00 TJ
03 KJ liberty
06 Commander
Half of a M715
None in that order and I'm sure im forgetting something

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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby Phils67 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:35 am

jaber wrote:We keep them out of the salt... ;)


I need to move out west lol


I dont sadly.. its solid as a rock but its all lightly surface rust coated so any stickers it had are gone.. but i know its a drawtight and beefy as hell.. Has to be a 6500+ lbs hitch.

They dont make em anymore though. The only one who makes the hitch i know of is BJs offroad.

But like everything on bjs its overpriced big time.. I think they want 350$ for it.. which is a joke. Personally id never shop at bjs due to their greed on prices.

Took me a year ina half to find a non rusted wagoneer hitch.. Usually they are completetly eatin away.. or they are those tiny 3500 lbs class 2 or 3 hitchs.

Where are you located if your closeby i might sell it Im in Virginia[/quote]

Im in upstate NY. Where i live you rarely see FSJs unless you drive through bumf**k, and even then if you spot one its eroding into the earth. Boneyards around here crush everything older than 10-15 years so trying to find parts is nearly impossible. If it werent for the internet my truck would be like the rest of them sadly
Big Ugly 1967 J2000 4.0MPI/T18/D20/locked 44/welded 53/35s
Past Jeeps:
77 Cherokee S
89 MJ
91 YJ
98,98,98,99,01 XJs
00 TJ
03 KJ liberty
06 Commander
Half of a M715
None in that order and I'm sure im forgetting something

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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby Phils67 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:36 am

Early truck hitches don't exist to my knowledge unless you have a bumper and a ball, which i still dont have a bumper
Big Ugly 1967 J2000 4.0MPI/T18/D20/locked 44/welded 53/35s
Past Jeeps:
77 Cherokee S
89 MJ
91 YJ
98,98,98,99,01 XJs
00 TJ
03 KJ liberty
06 Commander
Half of a M715
None in that order and I'm sure im forgetting something

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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby candymancan » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:58 pm

I have found about 7 wagoneers from 82 up including 1 2 door cheroke the other day.

They pop up in salvage yards every 3-4 months here it seems.

Ive seen two driving around here.. 1 of em was ironicly accross the street when i met my previous owner at a shopping center lol.. The other was about 5 miles down the road but that one wasnt running.

Mine is the only fsj ive seen on the road around here.. and i daily drive it. Had alot of rust on it had to do alot of cutting welding and painting trust me lol.
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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby fulsizjeep » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:35 am

It was 1986 when I moved to SW FL from TX. I would be flat towing a Rambler Marlin behind my 81 J10. Even then, a class 3 or 4 hitch was difficult to locate for Jtrucks. I found a cheap one on a Waggy at the scrap yard and had a friend weld it on after making some mods. It was my quick, cheap way out and towed like a champ.
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Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby 66stepside » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:58 am

fulsizjeep wrote:It was 1986 when I moved to SW FL from TX. I would be flat towing a Rambler Marlin behind my 81 J10. Even then, a class 3 or 4 hitch was difficult to locate for Jtrucks. I found a cheap one on a Waggy at the scrap yard and had a friend weld it on after making some mods. It was my quick, cheap way out and towed like a champ.


That sounds about right. I was just telling another jeeper, a young guy in his mid 20’s, about how there’s usually a lot of fabrication, mild to wild, required with FSJ ownership unless you have deep pockets.

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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby kn4jpd » Sun May 06, 2018 5:57 am

1989 Grand Wagoneer that we just purchased pulling our 1973 Airstream Argosy that we've been fixing up.

Don't judge on the jeeps sag, I was just relocating it on my property. We weren't pulling it on the road.

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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby HeavyMetalThunder_81 » Sun May 06, 2018 6:15 am

I thought I posted in this thread already...I looked through it and I guess not.

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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby fulsizjeep » Sun May 06, 2018 7:40 am

Lookin' Good Jon! :-bd :fsj:


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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby 66stepside » Sun May 06, 2018 9:26 am

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Not quite towing, but...

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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby fulsizjeep » Sun May 06, 2018 10:24 am

That pickemup looks great! Maybe more of a haulin' topic but I'll sure take it. :-bd

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Re: Does your FSJ even tow, bro?

Postby jaber » Sun May 06, 2018 7:37 pm

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