I didnt pay much attention to this, but my neighbor has a 2017 grand cherokee, and i live ina townhouse so they are 2 spots from my wagoneer, and next to the 98 4.0 ZJ.. I was looking out the window.. and man those new Jeeps are short.. very little ground clearance.. Same with the cherokee and renegade.. Looking at the bumper for example they are only like 1/2 inch higher then the concrete curb... lol the wagoneer is like over a foot higher at stock height with my new springs...
The ZJ is probly 6 inches higher as well.. Looking at the ground clearance on the body like at the rocker panels ect.. I cant slide my 300lbs ass under that new jeep without my chest seriously getting crushed... On my wagoneer i can go down without any jacking of the vehicle.. remove my exhaust put my new exhaust on, do frame repair and all kinds of other repairs.. same with the zj i can take the transfercase off without any lifting of the vehicle..
Then looking at the new wranglers... the wagoneer is as high as a wrangler lol, ZJ is pretty close as well. I dont see how these new jeeps drive in snow deeper then 4 inches ? The bumper would be a snow plow..
EDIT: also they are tiny inside, the grand cherokee my neighbor has looks massive on the outside.. dwarfs my ZJ, and longer then it, "waggy is still longer though" and he had his lift gate open and i looked inside, and im like thats it ? There is hardly any cargo room... Its narrow and not very tall, my ZJ seems like its at least a foot wider inside. I use my Wagoneer and ZJ for alot of hauling. Be it house hold stuff to the storage unit, to driving accross states when we moved, to going on vacation and visiting family with the dog and baggage... To my landscaping business putting 30 bags of multch in the back stack to the ceiling almost.. With these new jeeps you could probly carry half that many bags of multch. I visited my brother and his kid this winter and i got him a wooden toy train set, with one of those big table tops for it. it was like 33 inches wide and 60 inches long and i tilted it sideways so it was 33 inches up and down.. no way a WK could do this... i had my mom and my german shephered and our baggage in the Jeep and i just highely doubt that new grand cherokee could do that.. The size of the trunk it wouldnt fit the toy set i got.. Hell ive put a full sized double door fridge in my ZJ..
I put a 135 gallon fish tank with stand in my wagoneer.. 72 inches long both were.. side by side and i could close the tailgate and the window.. seats up all the way of course.. With the tailgate down and some straps and mounting points i could fit a 8 foot long fish tank if i had too...
I guess my mom and I growing up have used her ZJ and then my two jeeps when i got them for ALOOTTTT of hauling and i dont see how itd be possible to do what we did over 20 years in a WK. I remember as a kid my mom moving stuff from one house to our new house in her 4.0 ZJ, she put huge wooden hand made german wall units in the back for crying out loud.. no way a wk could do that lol. Ive slept in the back of my ZJ with a full sized air mattress and could stretch out my 6 foot frame easily.. a wk couldnt do that... I dunno the new jeeps just dont seem practical ?