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Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby will e » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:03 pm

I used the cigar lighter to charge my phone and tablet but didn't like it for a few reasons. First, it was only on when the ignition is on. Yeah, this could have been fixed pretty easy. The cord kinda got in the way. And cigar lighter chargers are kinda flakey.

My truck had a blank plate where the clock is sometimes located. I had the idea a long time ago to make use of the blank plate and put some charging ports in. I finally ordered the parts and did the install.

I wired it up to the circut that uses the second battery when the ignition is off but the normal charging circuit when the ignition is on. I also added a push button on/off switch so I can disable the port if I want. I went push button instead of toggle to give it a bit of 'old time style'.

There are a lot of options for these types of USB ports. I chose one with a small indicator light instead of something that lights up big time.

It was a pretty easy mod. I did have to trim the charger face a bit both top and bottom to get it to fit but I think it turned out okay.

And, of course, pictures!
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It's a lot better than the cord draggin over from the cigar lighter and will be handy for the passenger too!
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby ShagWagon » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:28 pm

I bought a radio with a USB charger. But I'm thinking of putting some in where all the ashtrays are in the back. People don't smoke anymore.
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby jaber » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:16 pm

Nicely done.
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby az chip » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:31 pm

Very nice. Is that a Powerpole brand?
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby jsinajeep » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:39 am

That look good Mike

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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby will e » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:56 am

Thanks guys. I used this one:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XC ... UTF8&psc=1

It seemed to have the least noticable indicator light. I didn't want something distracting while driving at night. There are also a lot that come with a small LED volt meter.
There is just enough room to fit two side by side but a bit of side trimming would be necessary as well. I don't need that many ports. I wanted to have it be powered all of the time with the option of turning it off so I went with a single one and a switch.
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby will e » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:00 am

ShagWagon wrote:I bought a radio with a USB charger. But I'm thinking of putting some in where all the ashtrays are in the back. People don't smoke anymore.


That's a smoking idea! I'd use it if I still had a back seat.
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby ghcoe » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:18 am

I just added some USB charging points too. Except for me I had to add a console since I had a clock...:-) . I installed a trio which included the panel, volt meter, 2 port USB charge station and 12v power point. I also added another 2 port USB charge station on the side. The console also has two side and one rear LED lights to help with lighting up the cabin at night. Also the Quadra Trac switch is now opposite of the USB switch on the drivers side. Much easier to get to now over being in the glove box.
Get rid of the middle man. I picked up the trio with panel for $9.50 shipped. These people sell on Amazon too, but they ask for more money because they know we will buy it. I get most of my stuff from Aliexpress. Just keep in mind it does take a bit of time to get to the USA. I have a lot more time than money.... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-12V- ... autifyAB=0

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Postby bwwhaler » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:54 pm

I bought one like this off amazon, has 4 usb's and 3 of the large lighter charging ports, also has a voltmeter, it has adhesive strips so you can mount it somewhere if wanted, I use it between multiple vehicles, works great when everyone wants to charge their phones, etc... really easy on the wallet too....
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Postby Cheapthrills » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:10 pm

Very nice clean install....

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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby candymancan » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:50 pm

What size wiring did you use and where did you get the power from. the cigarett light the wires are super super small like 18ga or something maybe smaller.. and it charges my cell phone 1% every like 5 minutes.. when i put a car tire pump in there it drew so much power i could smell hot wiring and the wires got hot.. in my grabd cherokee the power outlet never got hot. So id imagine you need to tap in the correct power source and it has be big enough in size to handle the current of modern electronics.

The cheapo power outlets with 2 usb connectors the wires on them are 10 or 12ga wires
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby will e » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:10 am

candymancan wrote:What size wiring did you use and where did you get the power from. the cigarett light the wires are super super small like 18ga or something maybe smaller.. and it charges my cell phone 1% every like 5 minutes.. when i put a car tire pump in there it drew so much power i could smell hot wiring and the wires got hot.. in my grabd cherokee the power outlet never got hot. So id imagine you need to tap in the correct power source and it has be big enough in size to handle the current of modern electronics.

The cheapo power outlets with 2 usb connectors the wires on them are 10 or 12ga wires


It's interesting you noted this. My tablet would report 'slow charging' when I used the cigar ligher. I assumed it was the quality of the adapter. I will go try it out on my rear ports which are wired with 10 guage.

I am surprised the factory cigar ligher would have small gauge, heating the element must draw some serious power? But only for a short time.
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby will e » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:10 am

ghcoe wrote:I just added some USB charging points too. Except for me I had to add a console since I had a clock...:-) . I installed a trio which included the panel, volt meter, 2 port USB charge station and 12v power point. I also added another 2 port USB charge station on the side. The console also has two side and one rear LED lights to help with lighting up the cabin at night. Also the Quadra Trac switch is now opposite of the USB switch on the drivers side. Much easier to get to now over being in the glove box.
Get rid of the middle man. I picked up the trio with panel for $9.50 shipped. These people sell on Amazon too, but they ask for more money because they know we will buy it. I get most of my stuff from Aliexpress. Just keep in mind it does take a bit of time to get to the USA. I have a lot more time than money.... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-12V- ... autifyAB=0

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That turned out sharp!
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby ghcoe » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:09 pm

will e wrote:That turned out sharp!


Thanks! Video of build here https://youtu.be/KXglOWeXDqE.
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby letank » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:20 pm

will e wrote:
candymancan wrote:What size wiring did you use and where did you get the power from. the cigarett light the wires are super super small like 18ga or something maybe smaller.. and it charges my cell phone 1% every like 5 minutes.. when i put a car tire pump in there it drew so much power i could smell hot wiring and the wires got hot.. in my grabd cherokee the power outlet never got hot. So id imagine you need to tap in the correct power source and it has be big enough in size to handle the current of modern electronics.

The cheapo power outlets with 2 usb connectors the wires on them are 10 or 12ga wires


It's interesting you noted this. My tablet would report 'slow charging' when I used the cigar ligher. I assumed it was the quality of the adapter. I will go try it out on my rear ports which are wired with 10 guage.

I am surprised the factory cigar ligher would have small gauge, heating the element must draw some serious power? But only for a short time.


Neat install, I like tablet mount as well, any specs on it please, please! I have a sero7 tablet, and trying to mount it with the "Ram-Mount" system.

The charge efficiency depends on the amp capacity of the step down adapter, some are rated 1.0 and others 2.0 or 2.1A. At 1.0 it is not enough to fully charge a device like a cell phone, it merely maintain the charge. On my last trip I had a 1.0, after a few weeks the phone battery was discharging rapidly... bought a new battery, same, then I found out about the charging specs.
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby will e » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:58 pm

The adapter has a 1.0 and a 2.1 port. Even in the 1.0 I didn't get the 'slow charging' message on the tablet but I also didn't notice the charging rate. I will give it a few trys out on the trail.

I used the ram mount system.

This roll bar mout: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KO ... UTF8&psc=1
It works really well. For a tablet you want to go 1.5" ball minimum. I went with a slightly longer arm mount, it just gives a bit more flexibility on location. I can move it around if the sunlight is hitting it wrong and if I have a passenger can point it in their direction.
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby HowardT64 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:03 am

Very nice :) I need to do this to mine :)
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Re: Latest Mod - Charging ports!

Postby letank » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:33 am

will e wrote:
I used the ram mount system.

This roll bar mout: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KO ... UTF8&psc=1
It works really well. For a tablet you want to go 1.5" ball minimum. I went with a slightly longer arm mount, it just gives a bit more flexibility on location. I can move it around if the sunlight is hitting it wrong and if I have a passenger can point it in their direction.


Got it, you have a roll cage, it took me a while to figure it out
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