Replacing Headliner Yourself?

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Fast79Chief
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Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby Fast79Chief » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:50 pm

Has anybody made their own replacement panels for the 79 Chief style 2 piece headliner? I'd be interested in what kind of material yo used to contour to the inner roof and fit into the side channels?

Love to see some ideas and pictures of homemade headliners that replaced the factory cardboard ones.

Thanks.
1979 Cherokee Chief S, 360, MSD Pro Billet Distributor with Factory Ignition Box (Wow), HEI Wires, Edelbrock 1406, Edelbrock Performer manifold, 3.54 gears, Tru-Trac Locker in the rear, Turbo 400, Quadratrac, Dual tanks, new 32 x 11.50's, big winch, Homemade 2.5" full length exhaust ... and a lot of work to do. :)

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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby SJTD » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:56 pm

This is what I used. http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showpost ... stcount=20

As I said higher up in that thread, if I were to do it again I'd move the center roof support forward so I wouldn't have to monkey around mounting the divider.
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby Fast79Chief » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:52 am

Looks good SJTD. Is that material readily available? Where is it sold? Is that insulation of some sort you have against the inner roof ?

Let's see more ideas folks.
1979 Cherokee Chief S, 360, MSD Pro Billet Distributor with Factory Ignition Box (Wow), HEI Wires, Edelbrock 1406, Edelbrock Performer manifold, 3.54 gears, Tru-Trac Locker in the rear, Turbo 400, Quadratrac, Dual tanks, new 32 x 11.50's, big winch, Homemade 2.5" full length exhaust ... and a lot of work to do. :)

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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby SJTD » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:00 am

It was for me since I live in the big city. Got if from a distributor but they sold to walk in guys like me.

I see it, or something similar, is now available at Lowes.

Search up "Coroplast".

Insulation is a two part urethane. Got it for free from work since it was expired. The guy that handled the hazardous waste let me have it to save himself work. It's nasty stuff in that it uses the same hardener as urethane paint.
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby 1979bettywhite » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:21 pm

I believe you can get the new headliner kit from BJs. Just depends on what you want to spend. You could also try a local upholstery shop and see what they might sell you, or what they would charge to make one for you.

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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby cmaje72 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:52 am

Anyone willing to take measurements of the original headliner boards? I'm starting with nothing (not even the j channels) since the PO stripped the interior for paint then lost all the pieces. I have been looking for a salvageable (or even one I could make a template from) board locally for about a year and a half with no luck. Based on SJTD's post it looks like I could handle making my own.
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby 1979bettywhite » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:55 am

Man, I wish I would have known about a month ago. Had both my pieces out for cleaning and repainting.

Sorry man.

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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby SJTD » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:40 am

I haven't tossed mine yet but It'll be a while before I can get to that.

Redoing another bedroom.

Unfortunately they aren't a nice square shape. Lotsa angles and curves.
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby letank » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:50 am

cmaje72 wrote:Anyone willing to take measurements of the original headliner boards?


I have one sitting, ready to be upgraded, it may take a day before I post the size, will do the flatter part and the angled sections, or the folded ears.
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby cmaje72 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:35 am

Awsome and no hurry at all. If I can get close I can always trim to fit and the local lowes has those cloroplast sheets pretty cheap so I figure I can probably screw it up a few times and still not be anywhere near the $500 for the pre fab part.
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby Fast79Chief » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:30 pm

Getting back to my original post ... let's see those homemade headliners and info about materials used to get the job done.

Thanks.
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby ghcoe » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:27 pm

You can read through my thread. I used coroplast. I did have some issues, but it is covered in the thread. Biggest problem is that the original headliner had shrunk and I did not realize it. It does have a high rate of contraction/expansion and has buckled in a few locations. To be honest I really don't notice it daily driving, just when I look at it closely and go oh yeah..... Better than nothing is the way I look at it. Been 5 year and I would say it was worth it. Good luck. George. viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4069&p=45232#p45232
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby Fast79Chief » Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:11 am

ghcoe, by any chance did you measure that rear panel you built before you installed the final cut? If you could share those overall measurements of the pieces you built that would be awesome.

Thanks.
1979 Cherokee Chief S, 360, MSD Pro Billet Distributor with Factory Ignition Box (Wow), HEI Wires, Edelbrock 1406, Edelbrock Performer manifold, 3.54 gears, Tru-Trac Locker in the rear, Turbo 400, Quadratrac, Dual tanks, new 32 x 11.50's, big winch, Homemade 2.5" full length exhaust ... and a lot of work to do. :)

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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby ghcoe » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:43 am

I might still have the panels, but I am leaving tomorrow morning and will be gone till next week. So it would be a bit before I can get to it. That is if I still have the panels.
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby letank » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:43 am

cmaje72 wrote:Awsome and no hurry at all. If I can get close I can always trim to fit and the local lowes has those cloroplast sheets pretty cheap so I figure I can probably screw it up a few times and still not be anywhere near the $500 for the pre fab part.


Here we go, with measurements, off an 86 wagoneer, you can see the water leaks

the front part

Image

and the rear

Image

I realized that I forgot to measure the location of the rear dome and switch light, and probably other points that anybody is welcome to ask for specs
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby Fast79Chief » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:40 pm

letank, great job! Would that be the same 2 pieces in a 79? Tried to click on the picture to expand it so I can see your measurements, but it doesn't blow up. Anyway you could send those pics to my email address?

Thanks.
1979 Cherokee Chief S, 360, MSD Pro Billet Distributor with Factory Ignition Box (Wow), HEI Wires, Edelbrock 1406, Edelbrock Performer manifold, 3.54 gears, Tru-Trac Locker in the rear, Turbo 400, Quadratrac, Dual tanks, new 32 x 11.50's, big winch, Homemade 2.5" full length exhaust ... and a lot of work to do. :)

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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby cmaje72 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:24 am

If you want to send them to me too I would be more than happy to host the full size images and link them back here so people can blow them up.
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby letank » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:01 pm

forgot to do the rear dome light measures, will contact latter today or manana, a rest day from FSJ wrenching
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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby memsiej » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:48 am

Or do this!

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Re: Replacing Headliner Yourself?

Postby letank » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:13 pm

email sent, and a note that I forgot to add

The FRONT headliner the top or windshield area has divots for the screws to pass next not thru the headliner, front the center point , aka the rear view mirror mount, the spacing is 6", and the divot is 1" across and barely 1/4 indent as marked on the pict

BUT for the rear headliner, the divots are spaced every 5 1/2"

Other, the tailgate part of the rear headliner has one ear on each side that are about 1", not obvious on the pict, but as said , cutting a bit larger might be a good option, probably 1/4 to 3/8 for the first test.
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