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Re: Job dilema

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:41 pm
by Shagoneer
will e wrote:
Shagoneer wrote:I didn’t know I could physically be this tired. They’ve had me working on the assembly line the last couple weeks so I can get an idea of what the company does, and see where improvements could be made in the process.
One of the rules at Toyota is you are not allowed to suggest improvements to a process until you have mastered the standard way of performing the task (standard work).

The assembly line experience will be good for ya.

Working the line was good for me in some ways, I did learn. Lot about our products and have since changed a few of them to make the assembly line run smoother. BUT during the time I worked the assembly line I was working under the production manager, and he was temporarily my supervisor. Now my only supervisors are the company owners, but the production manager thinks because he was in charge of me for 2 weeks he is now in charge of me permanently and he tried to make me work the line when people have called in sick, even though I’ve been in conference calls, or fixing equipment, or doing something specifically assigned to me by the owner.

Re: Job dilema

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:31 pm
by SJTD
Always there's politics. It's one thing if he asks you to help out, quite another if he tells you to.

How'd he take it when you said no?

Re: Job dilema

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:35 am
by Moosehead
In addition to doing something you love now, and having an hour a day added back to your personal life, the experience you’ll gain on the solar design R&D will pay you back any incremental income lost in future career progression.

That said, doing what you love is more than enough reason, in and of itself.

Re: Job dilema

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:22 pm
by Shagoneer
SJTD wrote:Always there's politics. It's one thing if he asks you to help out, quite another if he tells you to.

How'd he take it when you said no?


He cried to the owner and said that I was screwing up our production schedule. When the owner asked me why I was screwing up production i told him that the guy was pushed because I refused to drop all of my projects to go help him out.

At one point we had a butane pump blow a seal and shoot liquid butane everywhere, including all over me. While I was fixing that pump temporarily, getting quotes for a new pump, cleaning up the pool of butane because I was one of 3 people allowed in that particular building after the pump burst, and changing into dry clothes; he got mad that I wouldn’t stop all of that to bend him some brackets on our brake, even though he sent someone from the production line to pick weeds. Then tried to tell the owner there was no one else that could bend brackets. While he walked around doing nothing, and continued to have an employee pick weeds instead of actually producing product.

Re: Job dilema

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:55 pm
by Shagoneer
As much as I enjoy this job I do have to add in a little quip. I thought there would be a lot more using solidworks and testing, and less fixing machines that are too new to need fixing.

Re: Job dilema

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:04 pm
by rocklaurence
It sounds more like a Bait-n-Switch to me. They said you were going to be a Process Improvement Engineer but now it seems like that's your secondary job while your primary job is fixing machines and running the line. Wait until they have you working 60 hr weeks on salary. Aren't you under a department/Engineering boss?

Re: Job dilema

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:09 pm
by Cecil14
This is pretty simple: did you, or did you not, get a contract with your specific duties listed? If not, you've got what you've got. Enjoy it (as much as possible), or start looking for something else.

Having a gig you don't like is definitely no fun, most of us have been there. Sometimes you just have to dig in and make the best of something until you can get out somewhere better.


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Re: Job dilema

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:09 am
by Shagoneer
I enjoy my job thoroughly, just not quite what I had initally anticipated. It’s hard for me not to enjoy a job where I have tons of awesome toys.

Re: Job dilema

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:28 am
by rocklaurence
If you like the work, build up your experience/resume and then move on. I've worked my whole carrer in Fortune 500 companies and seen the statement "and other duties as needed" in the contracts. Both at Coca Cola and Clorox I was a Maintencnce Supervisor and Project guy until the equipment broke. Then I became another Grunt to the upper management and had to work as a Technician until it was fixed. My problem was that I had a previous Technical history before becomng a supervisor and was expected to do both jobs. However, other managers that never worked as a Tech were never expected to get dirty--only manage thier resources. GRRR. Now I work for Amazon Deploying new sites and they are by far the best group when having defined job responsibilities and ensuring Work-Life-Balance.