did wagoneers come with diesels ?

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did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby candymancan » Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:19 pm

I already have the wagoneer i want, but before i got it i eye balled this wagoneer with a 6.2l bio or whatever diesel... they claim it was some low production experiemental diesel... I cant find any info them and was hoping you guys could shed some insight.

Originally it wasl isted at like $4,000. But i think some stealership bought it and is listing it now using the same pics and put it at 10k$



http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/ ... 93721.html
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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby Tatsadasayago » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:04 am

Nope! No such critter from the factory.
The first diesel jeep in the 80s was a Renault 4 cyl in the XJ Cherokees.
Those badges are from a C/K series GM pickup from the 80s-90s.
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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby HeavyMetalThunder_81 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:51 am

Considering how they have it listed as a 5.9 and they don't even know how to spell diesel I think you're better off with what you bought...and judging by the pics I'd hate to see that hack job swap.
The 6.2 GM diesel was a turd anyways. Only mediocre fuel mileage, unreliable, and completely gutless.
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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby Tatsadasayago » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:38 am

Oh, and the glow plug controller drama...
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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby Gumby » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:32 pm

I think the only diesels offered were sent or built overseas. Wish I could have one, but this one.... run away from it as fast as you can.
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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby mud89 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:28 am

Like Gumby, the only diesels FSJs i know were built oversea, more precisely in Finland or Sweden : wagoneers with a 411B Valmet engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoBJJGTUAYI

http://forums.offipalsta.com/showthread.php?t=99309
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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby letank » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:37 am

stumbled on this

http://www.505turbo.com/forum/index.php ... icial-xd2/

while searching for Zeitgeist diesel, out of Placerville, CA

pasting, just in case the site goes south

interesting! did some quick googling and found a video of this vehicle on youtube. in the video, you can see the sticker the owner alludes to -- it's a california ARB sticker, which mentions "zeitgeist diesel applications" in placerville, california. about the only reference i could find to that company is this one, which states that the company did diesel conversions using peugeot engines (!?!). according to the california secretary of state website, the company is not currently in business...


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That's pretty cool. I wonder how many other converted CJ7s are floating around out there? I'd love to get my hands on one. Apparently back in the early 60s you could get the CJ5 with a Perkins 3.2 liter 4 cylinder diesel from the factory, though there were only a couple hundred ever produced.

A Jeep CJ or Wrangler with a Peugeot XD motor is on my list of would-be-cool projects. Maybe someday I'd endeavor such a project.


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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby mud89 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:57 am

Peugeot enthusiasts in the USA, really ?

BTW there is a rumor about PSA (Peugeot, Citroen) returning on the US market in a few years, but i am skeptical, wait and see..

I remember a Russian Wagoneer with a Perkins
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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby cmaje72 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:29 am

letank wrote:stumbled on this
That's pretty cool. I wonder how many other converted CJ7s are floating around out there? I'd love to get my hands on one. Apparently back in the early 60s you could get the CJ5 with a Perkins 3.2 liter 4 cylinder diesel from the factory, though there were only a couple hundred ever produced.


I saw one of these perkins powered CJ's at a jeep jamboree in the mid-late 90's. Had no idea back then that it was anything special.

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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby Crunchysock » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:33 pm

There's an 81 Chief for sale on the SF craigslist right now that says it originally had a zeitgeist diesel in it, so now it's smog exempt. I'm new and don't know the rules regarding posting links, so you'll have to look it up on your own.

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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby KJ Ryu » Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:33 am

I've got an OLD Chilton's manual that says some FSJs did, even has a section for that engine but, I've never seen one. As already mentioned, they were probably only sold outside the States.
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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby Stuka » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:46 pm

KJ Ryu wrote:You are welcome to post links to craigslist (we even have a section just for that here: viewforum.php?f=32 )

This topic however is over a year old, and we try to not revive posts from the dead.
You are welcome to post links to craigslist (we even have a section just for that here: viewforum.php?f=32 )

This topic however is over a year old, and we try to not revive posts from the dead.

Crunchysock wrote:There's an 81 Chief for sale on the SF craigslist right now that says it originally had a zeitgeist diesel in it, so now it's smog exempt. I'm new and don't know the rules regarding posting links, so you'll have to look it up on your own.


The Chiltons I have seen only reference the diesel that was available in the FC170. There was also a diesel available in the XJ overseas.
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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby KJ Ryu » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:09 pm

I just noticed the part about it being 1986. So, yeah, probably XJ...

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1977 SJ J10, 2v304, T18, D20, 37x14s, SOA & SF on tons, still ugly. not running
1978 SJ Wagoneer, 4v360, QT, 33x12.5s, lift by Sawzall :-bd NOT Running :(
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Re: did wagoneers come with diesels ?

Postby fulsizjeep » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:49 pm

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