Bought a Wagoneer. Now what?

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Bought a Wagoneer. Now what?

Postby medicdunlap » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:16 pm

I just purchased a 1990 Grand Wagoneer. Sight unseen from GR Auto Gallery.
100,000 miles.
What's the recommended first steps ? I am not a handyman but always wanted a classic car.
should i immediately change the oil, coolant, fluids, filters?
rotate the tires?
Get a multipoint inspection from a mechanic ?
Would mobil one oil be a bad idea ?
K and N air filter?
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Re: Bought a Wagoneer. Now what?

Postby tedlovesjeeps71 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:32 pm

I'd start by asking the auto gallery what, if any, work was performed and if they have documentation for it. No sense duplicating any work/money already done.


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Re: Bought a Wagoneer. Now what?

Postby twisted frame » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:42 pm

Agree with the above post! If they give a broad answer like the "went through it" or the like, then at least check the oil and other fluids. Go for a drive, see if it does everything it's supposed to, and start log where you can keep track of the maintenance. Installing a K & N is fine, doesn't hurt anything, but if you're installing more than just the filter, and going for an aftermarket air filter housing too then keep the stock air filter setup so you can put it back on later or sell it with the Jeep, if you ever sell it. I don't really have an opinion on moving to synthetic fluids but I know there is plenty of debate over whether or not it's a good idea to run them in an engine with plenty of miles on it if the engine and its seals have been used to conventional motor oil all their life.
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Re: Bought a Wagoneer. Now what?

Postby medicdunlap » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:48 pm

excellent appreciate the advice

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Re: Bought a Wagoneer. Now what?

Postby will e » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:06 pm

It's a beauty!
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Re: Bought a Wagoneer. Now what?

Postby soonerck » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:23 pm

Wow. Just based on looks, you shouldn't have to do much. If you have a trusted mechanic, have him take it for a spin and put it up on a lift for an inspection.

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Re: Bought a Wagoneer. Now what?

Postby letank » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:34 pm

No need for mobil 1, it MAY clean some of the caked oil and it will leads to leaks. Part synthetic is good, I used castrol syntec for a long time , I know castrol got some flak for the part synthetic being not clearly defined such as 10 or 20% . Depending on your weather you can use the diesel specs oil which HAD more zinc content which is good for our flat tappet engines, so Delo or Rotella 15w40, there is a synthetic version of the diesel oil so watch the label when purchasing. Also get a quality oil filter AC, the inmates here like the NAPA filters.

belts and hoses for lack of cracks

No need for K&N it lets a lot of dust being sucked into the engine, off roaders complain a lot about wrecked engines. Get the regular disposable paper filter. You can get some fancy oiled filter with a extra barrier from amsoil, very nice, I have one, but a real pain to clean, dry and soak, it is good if you do a lot of dusty roads, so you do not have to purchase a new filter every 2 months.

As said above, inspect all fluids for cleanliness, coolant should be devoid of rust color tint, brake fluid clear, at least not black, engine oil clear of light tan -Ask what was used- Transmission fluid checked with engine at operating temperature, which is basically 10 miles of driving, shift to all gears while pressing brakes, put emergency brake on, gear in neutral, it is should be bright pink and not smelling like burnt coffee.

Then differentials front and rear and the most important transfer case level to be at fill hole...

As usual, check that battery holder are tight, battery cable not corroded, tire pressure about 34-36psi depending on comfort desired, you can drive in town at 30 psi. Check the spare and the rear compartment for the jack bits, always good to have a working jack and a spare that holds air.

Looks like a very nice specimen, nice detailling work, congratulations

Check the valence sticker by the driver's side next to the windshield washer reservoir to see if it is a California specs or a 49state vehicle, so you can now do the RUST check by lifting the carpet at all four corners by the wheel well to make sure that no water is present. Same for the quarter panel in the cargo bay, in fact the jack should be rust free, if any rust it is an indicator of water intrusion

and the undercarriage for any rust spots by the gas tank skid plate next to the rear driver's side wheel

the utltimate test is to go to the car wash and see if water is getting inside, I probably forgot a few things, but this is a good beginning

EDIT: I looked at the other sold grand wagoneer for $19K on their site, the dark reddish one, which has a badly rusted gas tank skid plate, the skid plate holds up your plastic gas tank

Redit after looking at all those blinky paint jobs, the fuel filter has to have the return at the 12 o'clock position -meaning on top or above the main line to the carburetor-

the WRONG way, could not find an explecit image/pict of the right way

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but this way

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of course being in photobucket you may need to install the photobucket fix add-on

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Re: Bought a Wagoneer. Now what?

Postby letank » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:29 pm

No reply, seems like it is back on the for sale list

https://www.grautogallery.com/vehicles/ ... d-wagoneer
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Re: Bought a Wagoneer. Now what?

Postby Gumby » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:51 pm

I bet it has a saggy butt. Looks very nice, shows sold now. I would drive it home too not a bad price compared to some others.
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