Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

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Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby rockcandy » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:38 am

So now that I am back to the land of wheeling, I'd like to consult my fellow fsj'ers to see what's missing in their market. What off-road specific products would you like to see and but for your rig? Let me know what rig you have as well.

Also, I might be looking for fsj guys in the Phoenix area for mockup and design. It can't be your daily though as I don't want to deal with the "I need to drive it to work in the morning" thing. sooooo with that said, this is a roll call for Phoenix people. Speak up!

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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby Pablo » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:59 am

I'm in the Phoenix area. I have a 65 I am building up and a 67 that I might build later for the wife, if I dont have to poach too much of it.

If you do plastic mold injection, we could really use tail lights. Only one side is available new. These were used from 63 to (I believe) 81.

For those switching to rhino grills, a replacement pie plate you can mount an offroad hid in would be a hit. Reproduction round head light boxes and turn signal boxes made of metal instead of cheap plastic would be good.

Everything else on my old heep is incompatible with the newer ones, so the market might be too small.

I am kicking around replacing the inner fenders with tubing for strength. I will want a stinger front bumper with winch integegrated in between the frane rail nice and tight. I have not liked what I have seen so far. I have seen a few that were close. Also rocker guards and a rear bumper with tire, high lift, and fuel carrier. I will think about it tonight and post more details.

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Postby rockcandy » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:57 pm

Aesthetics wouldn't be my specialty. I'm honestly amazed bjs or someone hasn't jumped on those things. It's been almost 10 years since I had my fsj/buggy/hybrid and the aesthetic requests were the same back then.

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Postby Pablo » Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:13 pm

I am amazed as well. I cannot wait for the 3d printing machines to mature. Once the cheap can print clear
polycarbonate, all the old car guys reflector problems will be solved. They are almost there now.

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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby SadDayPanda » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:32 am

every major portion of the J truck beds have been reproduced except the rear corners, where the tail lights mount. Mine is rusted badly there. Also the cab corners of the truck. Every other truck in had replacement cab corners, I can find 55 Willys truck cab corners, but not 1980 j20.

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Postby csuengr » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:05 pm

STICKERS!!!! :mrgreen:
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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby wewillsurvive » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:55 pm

How about pre bent roll cage kits, especially ones that actually allow you to enter a four door.
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Postby KJ Ryu » Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:06 am

wewillsurvive wrote:How about pre bent roll cage kits?


Yes, PLEASE!
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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby rockcandy » Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:21 pm

wewillsurvive wrote:How about pre bent roll cage kits, especially ones that actually allow you to enter a four door.



As in you weld?

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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby KJ Ryu » Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:38 pm

That's what I'd want. No way to get a finish welded cage in one of these beasts.

I just want one for my J10. Shouldn't be too much more to extend that for Cherks and Wags, though.
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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby wewillsurvive » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:08 pm

rockcandy wrote:[quote="wewillsurvive"]How about pre bent roll cage kits, especially ones that actually allow you to enter a four door.



As in you weld?[/quote]

Yes. My desire is to cage my GW, in reality I can buy all of the tools and such but then it won't ever get done. If I can buy a pre bent cage and weld it myself then it is a possibility


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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby 44bz » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:24 pm

I'm in for a jtruck cage!


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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby CODE 5337 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:55 am

KJ Ryu wrote:
wewillsurvive wrote:How about pre bent roll cage kits?


Yes, PLEASE!

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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby Cheap Hobby » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:18 pm

Cage kit yes. 2 door with access to rear seat a bonus.
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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby willysdave » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:08 am

How about a suspension system that doesn't need to be put together like Frankenstein ? It really doesn't apply to me because mine is to custom already but hey, what do you guys think ?
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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby uncletiffy » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:14 am

79 Chief.

Rear brake lens and assembly.

An easier way to replace the wide trac rear fender flares, preferably in rubber or something that can flex. I will soon be installing a fiberglass set, I dont think they will last very long in the bush.

Interior; Headliner, replacement front seats.........

A functioning tailgate electric to manual window kit.
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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby rockcandy » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:18 pm

Another thing I'm surprised hasn't come into being- Metal replacement flares.

The cage stuff seems to be common and it's doable. Keep the ideas flowing.

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Another vote for a cage ... and metal flares.

Postby jpswapmohn » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:11 pm

I will jump in on the cage idea, specifically one for the 4-door. I might be more keen on a bolt-clamp together system (with the inner slugs). My reasoning is that I want one that is tucked up as tight as possible along the roofline above the doors to minimize intrusion into the cabin. My thoughts are oriented toward making the rig safer while maintaining its usefulness as a daily driver for family.
it is impossible (as best as I can assess) to get a cage that fits the roofline tightly and get solid welds all the way around joints. Since I am dreaming, a spice colored cover for the bar to match my interior would also be great.. 8v)

Metal flares would be great as well. I have seen lots of good WT candidates that just needed flares.
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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby Nikkormat » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:46 pm

Full replacement FSJ Bodies In Aluminum...
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Re: Market study for fsj specific off-road gear

Postby wewillsurvive » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:16 am

Nikkormat wrote:Full replacement FSJ Bodies In Aluminum...


Or fiberglass/carbon fiber
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1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer AMC 360" AKA Golddigger- SOLD
2003 Dodge Crewcab 2500 Cummins longbed 4x4
2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee V-6 full time 4x4


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