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77 Wagoneer 6.0

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This is FSJ build #2. The first was a 79 Cherokee Chief with a Cummins 5.9, 5 speed with modern ford dana 60 and sterling 10.5.

After rolling it and pulling the parts I crushed it. Last year I came across a 77 Wagoneer with a 401. Didn't run so got it pretty cheap. Got it running and drove it for a while. Although it was a factory 401, the engine was replaced in 1998 so it's not the original.

I've had a 2004 LQ4 in my garage for some time and rebuilt it 020 over last winter. A CFSJC member and his wife help remove the 401 a couple weeks ago. Been busy the last couple weeks trying to get some of the heavy lifting done before I have surgery in late November. This will be a mild project. Nothing special.

Here are the specs:
2004 LQ4 bored 20 over
TH400
Ford NP205
Dana 60 front
Sterling 10.5 rear

Some pics from when I bought it:

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77 Wagoneer | 6.0 | TH400 | NP205 | Sterling 10.5 | Dana 60
07 6.7 Cummins 2500 4wd

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Re: 77 Wagoneer 6.0

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My CFSJC buddies helping pull the 401. They took it home for their CJ.

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Can't beat a couple Cummins sitting in the driveway. :-bd

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77 Wagoneer | 6.0 | TH400 | NP205 | Sterling 10.5 | Dana 60
07 6.7 Cummins 2500 4wd

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Re: 77 Wagoneer 6.0

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Ford NP205. My son helping my clean it for a rebuild. Will be adapting to a th400 with a custom adapter.

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Flange and yoke saved from the cummins build. 1350 flange and 1410 rear yoke:

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77 Wagoneer | 6.0 | TH400 | NP205 | Sterling 10.5 | Dana 60
07 6.7 Cummins 2500 4wd

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Re: 77 Wagoneer 6.0

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Saved the hydro boost and MC from the cummins Chief. They match the calipers for the brakes. Also worked great last time.

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77 Wagoneer | 6.0 | TH400 | NP205 | Sterling 10.5 | Dana 60
07 6.7 Cummins 2500 4wd

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Re: 77 Wagoneer 6.0

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Scored a fuse box and full body harness from LS1 tech. $50. Total ship weight was 36lbs. Can't buy that much wire for near $50.

Plan is to rewire as much as possible and ditch the stock old fuse box.

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Will need to rework the box as it has jumpers all over internally. I've taken it apart and removed all the jumpers. Not sure what the plan is yet. Can mess with after my surgery.
77 Wagoneer | 6.0 | TH400 | NP205 | Sterling 10.5 | Dana 60
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Re: 77 Wagoneer 6.0

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Didn't get any pics of the engine, tranny, and transfer case before I set it.

The TC is completely rebuilt with all new bearings and seals. I debated the twin stick mod but decided I didn't need it. Never really used it on my buggy.

The tranny is a th400 built with a 4l80e direct drum and better sprag. Also has a transgo 2 shift kit. Should be good for 600hp.

I rebuilt the engine last winter. Put the stronger LS2 rods with arp bolts. Head studs and LS3 springs. Have a LS9 cam. Plan on a turbo in the near future.

Here's some pics of the install. Set the engine yesterday.

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77 Wagoneer | 6.0 | TH400 | NP205 | Sterling 10.5 | Dana 60
07 6.7 Cummins 2500 4wd

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Re: 77 Wagoneer 6.0

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Worked on the mounts today. Didn't get too far. My foot has been killing my. Looking forward to my surgery.

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Have the tranny/TC mount made. Paint is drying. Will install tomorrow.
77 Wagoneer | 6.0 | TH400 | NP205 | Sterling 10.5 | Dana 60
07 6.7 Cummins 2500 4wd

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This looks like it'll be lots of fun. Nice work. :-bd
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Okay...noob here...what kind of engine is that?
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Re: 77 Wagoneer 6.0

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HowardT64 wrote:Okay...noob here...what kind of engine is that?
2004 LQ4 6 liter. From a chevy truck. LS style engine.
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Making quick work of it!

That center console is ginormous!
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Re: 77 Wagoneer 6.0

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Stuka wrote:Making quick work of it!

That center console is ginormous!
Not too quick. We pulled the 401 on October 5th. Been working almost every evening. Once I have surgery on my foot I will be off it for 6-8 weeks then limited lifting. Trying to get the heavy stuff done.


That console is big. It's nice though. Came with the jeep. One of those Smittybuilt boxes.
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I dig the interior.
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lobie wrote:
HowardT64 wrote:Okay...noob here...what kind of engine is that?
2004 LQ4 6 liter. From a chevy truck. LS style engine.

Kind of reminds me of an old flathead engine:)
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Looks good!
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Re: 77 Wagoneer 6.0

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Finished all the mounts today. Everything is all bolted up. Need to put the accessories on and dress the engine.

Pics are pretty bad. Phone pics and not much light under the jeep.


Bad pic of the adapter I made. Made out of 3/8" cold rolled on the th400 side. 5"x3/8" wall DOM. Then 1" cold rolled plate on the 205 side. Had to make this one 1" to clear the DOM from the bearing retainer on the 205. Also put som ribs perpendicular to the DOM to add some strength. Total adapter length is 5.875".

Pretty easy to make adapters. Just make sure everything is squared up and true. I'll never buy another adapter.

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Rear of the 205 with 1410 yoke

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205 side mount. Did not put one on my cummins build. The torque would rock it pretty bad and hit the floor. Decided to fab one up. It's hard to see in this pic. Took advantage of the old fuel tank front mount. Also had to cut the floor since the original was passenger drop.

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77 Wagoneer | 6.0 | TH400 | NP205 | Sterling 10.5 | Dana 60
07 6.7 Cummins 2500 4wd

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Also digging the interior.
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almost gets me excited to see super clean parts like this :)
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It's looking good man! Wish I could say we have been as productive with the 401, it's sitting in the garage floor right where we unloaded it! :oops:
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Re: 77 Wagoneer 6.0

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Put the front clip back on today. Wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Removing the front tires helped. Other than that, haven't done much.

Will start dressing the engine to get it sealed up.

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77 Wagoneer | 6.0 | TH400 | NP205 | Sterling 10.5 | Dana 60
07 6.7 Cummins 2500 4wd

http://www.lobie4x4.com
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