1978 J10 Project moved from IFSJA...5.3L swap with QT!!!

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Re: 1978 J10 Project moved from IFSJA...5.3L swap with QT!!!

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I'm keeping the 700r4 stock no plans to modify the torque converter lock up.


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1978 J10 5.3L/700r4/QT swap in progress.....

37x14.50R15 TOYO Open Country MT
4.56 Gears
6" BJs springs w/ BJs offroad shackles in front & 2" blocks in rear to level.
3" body lift

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1978 J10 Project moved from IFSJA...5.3L swap with QT!!!

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Cleaned up
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Intake going back on... Again....
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Hooking up temp wiring to get motor to fire before I start cleaning wiring and permanently installing
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Pulled EGR and plugged hole in manifold
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Plugged EGR port on intake
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1978 J10 5.3L/700r4/QT swap in progress.....

37x14.50R15 TOYO Open Country MT
4.56 Gears
6" BJs springs w/ BJs offroad shackles in front & 2" blocks in rear to level.
3" body lift

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Unfortunately when I went to crank motor found out the starter motor is shot and won't engage the flexplate. So I need a new one and that wasn't in the plans for the weekend. Will have to wait for next time. A little disappointed I wanted to hear it run but oh well.

Couple shots of truck at end of weekend work.
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1978 J10 5.3L/700r4/QT swap in progress.....

37x14.50R15 TOYO Open Country MT
4.56 Gears
6" BJs springs w/ BJs offroad shackles in front & 2" blocks in rear to level.
3" body lift

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msh227 wrote:Unfortunately when I went to crank motor found out the starter motor is shot and won't engage the flexplate. So I need a new one and that wasn't in the plans for the weekend. Will have to wait for next time. A little disappointed I wanted to hear it run but oh well.
Well that sucks. Pure buzz kill.
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Especially when I stayed up all night with no sleep to get work done.


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1978 J10 5.3L/700r4/QT swap in progress.....

37x14.50R15 TOYO Open Country MT
4.56 Gears
6" BJs springs w/ BJs offroad shackles in front & 2" blocks in rear to level.
3" body lift

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I do have one question for you guys regarding replacement gauges. I plan on replacing my gauges at some point but not right away. I bought sensors for the temp and oil pressure that I will incorporate with the 5.3L and the stock Jeep gauges (read about this on Novak), and my speedo will work since I have the QT with the speedo cable. What I'm curious about is when I go to buy new gauges are they plug and play with existing wiring or do I need to rewire the new gauges from the PCM? Can someone point me in the direction of a website so I can do some research? Thanks.
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1978 J10 5.3L/700r4/QT swap in progress.....

37x14.50R15 TOYO Open Country MT
4.56 Gears
6" BJs springs w/ BJs offroad shackles in front & 2" blocks in rear to level.
3" body lift

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Search CAN-BUS gauges by Speedhut. I think dakota digital uses them also. Really easy, plug right into your OBD port and uses all of the engine data. Kind of pricey but the simplicity may be worth it.

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Thanks. I will take a peak at that, so with that technology when you need to scan the PCM you just unplug your gauges from OBD2 port, perform scan, re-plug gauges into OBD2 port and go about business?

Seems pretty simple and quite possibly worth the extra cost depending what that cost is.
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1978 J10 5.3L/700r4/QT swap in progress.....

37x14.50R15 TOYO Open Country MT
4.56 Gears
6" BJs springs w/ BJs offroad shackles in front & 2" blocks in rear to level.
3" body lift

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Yes, or i read they make adapters that allow two plugs into the same obd. Like a splitter. I like the dakota digital, but it looks a little too 'Tron' too me. Old school digital. I think a set of vintage faced round gauges from speedhut would be nice. Easy enough to adapt to any dash - especially since you already have round gauges (mine are square)

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I completely agree with you. I'm not a fan of the digital dash, I don't even like the digital speedo display on Honda Civics, I like looking at gauges.

The speedhut gauges are nice since you can make them fully custom and they offer all gauges within 3 large circular gauges. Oh and their price seems pretty fair compared to other manufacturers.
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1978 J10 5.3L/700r4/QT swap in progress.....

37x14.50R15 TOYO Open Country MT
4.56 Gears
6" BJs springs w/ BJs offroad shackles in front & 2" blocks in rear to level.
3" body lift

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There's a build tgread on here with those gauges. I'll try to link it

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What is best way to post video? The J10 is alive and fired today!


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1978 J10 5.3L/700r4/QT swap in progress.....

37x14.50R15 TOYO Open Country MT
4.56 Gears
6" BJs springs w/ BJs offroad shackles in front & 2" blocks in rear to level.
3" body lift

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Post it to YouTube and share the link.

Congrats!

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Good job, I've had a good few days on mine and am not far behind you.

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msh227 wrote:Thanks. I will take a peak at that, so with that technology when you need to scan the PCM you just unplug your gauges from OBD2 port, perform scan, re-plug gauges into OBD2 port and go about business?

Seems pretty simple and quite possibly worth the extra cost depending what that cost is.
It's only two wires, the Can-Bus Hi and Can-Bus Low wires, thus you can tap into them behind the OBD2 connector (anywhere along the correct wires) and leave the port itself open.
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Matt, nice work!

I like the QT, are you concerned at all about big tires, low gears and a 5.3?
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243 - Thanks! I regeared with 4.56s to compensate for the 37s. I know there is added rotational mass and I noticed it lacked power with the 360 but I'm looking forward to running it with the 5.3L with little to no issues, hopefully.

I'm working on getting the first startup video posted hopefully later today.


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1978 J10 5.3L/700r4/QT swap in progress.....

37x14.50R15 TOYO Open Country MT
4.56 Gears
6" BJs springs w/ BJs offroad shackles in front & 2" blocks in rear to level.
3" body lift

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsNKJFi0vFU[/youtube]

Here is a quick video of the test start. Keep in mind it is open manifolds and my wiring is not complete, I didn't run it long just enough to hear it fire.
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1978 J10 5.3L/700r4/QT swap in progress.....

37x14.50R15 TOYO Open Country MT
4.56 Gears
6" BJs springs w/ BJs offroad shackles in front & 2" blocks in rear to level.
3" body lift

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Heck yea!

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It is a great feeling to hear it fire up!
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1978 J10 5.3L/700r4/QT swap in progress.....

37x14.50R15 TOYO Open Country MT
4.56 Gears
6" BJs springs w/ BJs offroad shackles in front & 2" blocks in rear to level.
3" body lift

Build Thread:
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