1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby BaldBeardedBastard » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:38 pm

New pics of the parts pile. Good news is the gearstar transmission shipped last week. Running out of this I need to order to kick this off. ImageImageImageImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby BaldBeardedBastard » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:43 pm

Round 2 of pics and threw in one of the same motor my father and I are installing into my his 76 International Scout Traveler. ImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby Stuka » Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:39 pm

That should be a great setup in the scout.
1981 J10 AMC 258 with HEI and Weber 32/36 DGEV Carb, T176, NP208, D44/M23 with 4.56 gears and Detroit Locker, 6" lift, 33x12.50 Cooper STT's, BJ's Offroad Rear Dozer Bumper.
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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby BaldBeardedBastard » Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:54 pm

Stuka wrote:That should be a great setup in the scout.
Oh yeah he is excited about it. Went with the ax15 as it was actually a factory diesel manual with the NA Nissan 3.3. ImageImageImage

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby tedlovesjeeps71 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:12 pm

That should be a big improvement over the Nissan diesel.
One me of the guys I work with is about to pull the trigger on the repower kit for his 'yota FJ60. I'm excited to see so many using this as it will show the manufacturers that there is interest and to keep offering it.
Pics are great and a cost spreadsheet would be appreciated as it goes.

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby BaldBeardedBastard » Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:00 am

I'll post up a spreadsheet as it gets farther along.

Update- the Woody is under the knife! Old drivetrain is pulled and truck of new parts are heading out!

I'll be setting up a classified for the original motor, Howell efi, and tranny shortly.

The Lokar sport shifter ships this week(hopefully) and been going back and forth with Greg over at Dakota Digital on the gauge cluster. Slower than I want but hey- progress! ImageImageImage

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby Tim75 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:42 am

I really like the idea of this build for a nice cruising vehicle. I will be watching this one. please conyinue to post your interactions with Dakota Digital. I really like your vision on the cluster.

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby BaldBeardedBastard » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:18 am

Tim75 wrote:I really like the idea of this build for a nice cruising vehicle. I will be watching this one. please conyinue to post your interactions with Dakota Digital. I really like your vision on the cluster.


I want to give credit where credit is due- I am merely porting over the design to a '86 dash- here is the Genesis- http://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=12920

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby Tim75 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:59 pm

I did check out the link to the original dash plans when i first came across this thread. I think the creator of that dash really created something that fits with the aesthetics of the original dash, but with modern amenities. What I'm very curious of is if dakota digital will be able to incorporate your request to display the J1939 CAN through the dash and eliminate the need of mounting another dash display. I hope you are able to accomplish that goal! I'm a fan of keeping these rigs as close to stock as posible and i think your idea follows those lines.

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby BaldBeardedBastard » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:24 pm

Tim75 wrote:What I'm very curious of is if dakota digital will be able to incorporate your request to display the J1939 CAN through the dash and eliminate the need of mounting another dash display. I hope you are able to accomplish that goal! I'm a fan of keeping these rigs as close to stock as posible and i think your idea follows those lines.


A little bad news on that front- from Dakota Digital- "Unfortunately your Cummins setup using J1939 protocol is a bit outside our wheelhouse. Our OBD-II/CAN interface is only suitable for J1850 protocol systems. That being said, our instrument systems can certainly be hardwired “standalone” and made to work in nearly any application."

I decided that it was still valuable for expandability and a clean way to integrate the warning light requirements for the engine, so I am going forward with the standalone version.

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby BaldBeardedBastard » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:38 pm

Progress!ImageImageImage

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby BaldBeardedBastard » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:38 pm

So need a sanity check- what is a good range for front differential clearance? Present positioning has about 6".

Thanks in advance!
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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby Stuka » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:26 pm

Are you going to run a sway bar that you never disconnect? And, are your bump stops low enough to prevent direct impact?
1981 J10 AMC 258 with HEI and Weber 32/36 DGEV Carb, T176, NP208, D44/M23 with 4.56 gears and Detroit Locker, 6" lift, 33x12.50 Cooper STT's, BJ's Offroad Rear Dozer Bumper.
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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby tedlovesjeeps71 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:26 pm

This thread excites me.
If you can find a way to cycle the front suspension you can get an idea of how much, if any, you may need to extend the bump stops.

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby BaldBeardedBastard » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:44 pm

Update: mounts are done and motor/trans/transfer case is installed. Bob notched the firewall to avoid clearance issues- it allowed him to pull back the entire drivetrain 2-3". New driveshafts are getting made. Still waiting on the Lokar shifter- going on a month and a half. ImageImageImage

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby tedlovesjeeps71 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:32 pm

Awesome!! Be running in no time!
Can’t really tell, are the motor mounts solid,rubber/poly, or liquid filled??

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby SJTD » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:51 pm

And do the come with the motor? I'd think, given the intended market for this motor, that they do.
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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby BaldBeardedBastard » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:09 am

They are rubber- got the mounts from Axis Industries.
http://www.axisindustriesusa.com/r2-8-e ... de-mounts/

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Re: 1986 Grand Wagoneer Cummins R2.8 Swap

Postby derf » Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:56 pm

Looking good


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