cummins 5.9 and 6.7 dimensions?

[jeep_j10_1975]

i am looking for the dimensions for the 6bt, ISB, common-rail, 6.7 and 4bt, thanks.

[Stuka]

The 5.9 and 6.7 have the same external dimensions. But you do NOT want a 6.7L. Swapping in a 5.9 is MUCH easier because of all the sensors and emissions that go with the 6.7L.

As for the smaller 3.9L 4BT, its still physically a large engine. But it fits a lot better in an FSJ. A 6bt can be made to fit, but requires some fire wall mods.

[jeep_j10_1975]

The 5.9 and 6.7 have the same external dimensions. But you do NOT want a 6.7L. Swapping in a 5.9 is MUCH easier because of all the sensors and emissions that go with the 6.7L.

As for the smaller 3.9L 4BT, its still physically a large engine. But it fits a lot better in an FSJ. A 6bt can be made to fit, but requires some fire wall mods.

I would probably take all the emissions stuff off anyways and I don't have a problem with wiring either.

[Stuka]

The 5.9 and 6.7 have the same external dimensions. But you do NOT want a 6.7L. Swapping in a 5.9 is MUCH easier because of all the sensors and emissions that go with the 6.7L.

As for the smaller 3.9L 4BT, its still physically a large engine. But it fits a lot better in an FSJ. A 6bt can be made to fit, but requires some fire wall mods.

I would probably take all the emissions stuff off anyways and I don't have a problem with wiring either.

From what I have read, you cant take it off. The ECU relies on it. There are some good articles over on some of the cummins forums about it. But every single article says stick with the 5.9L if you want a 6BT. Its easier to mod, makes the same power, but gets better fuel economy.

[Gumby]

Stuka is on the money. I have a CR 5.9 and I was into the diesel "fan club" for a moment. Everyone wanted me to trade in my 5.9 for the 6.7. There was no way I would do that, for one you can and should not run anything other than the "new" low sulphur fuel in them. You have to use the urea and the eletronics WILL drive you nuts.

Advantage goes to the 5.9. Not saying the 6.7 is garbage, not at al it is a great engine, but not for a swap without using almost everything from the original donor. I like the fact I can drive across the entire continent of the "Americas" and not worry about getting check engine lights or trouble codes.

[jeep_j10_1975]

Stuka is on the money. I have a CR 5.9 and I was into the diesel "fan club" for a moment. Everyone wanted me to trade in my 5.9 for the 6.7. There was no way I would do that, for one you can and should not run anything other than the "new" low sulphur fuel in them. You have to use the urea and the eletronics WILL drive you nuts.

Advantage goes to the 5.9. Not saying the 6.7 is garbage, not at al it is a great engine, but not for a swap without using almost everything from the original donor. I like the fact I can drive across the entire continent of the "Americas" and not worry about getting check engine lights or trouble codes.

so is the common-rail 5.9 a better engine to use for a swap, compared to the 6.7?

[Gumby]

In my opinion yes, but for a swap I would go to a 24v because it is not as electronically labor intensive as either of the other two, parts are plentiful and you can still get as much power at a lower over all cost.

edit: You may be able to get an entire truck for the rice of the CR 5.9 or the 6.7 engine alone (without the ECMs).

[jeep_j10_1975]

In my opinion yes, but for a swap I would go to a 24v because it is not as electronically labor intensive as either of the other two, parts are plentiful and you can still get as much power at a lower over all cost.

edit: You may be able to get an entire truck for the rice of the CR 5.9 or the 6.7 engine alone (without the ECMs).

yea i kinda like the CR5.9 idea better because it would be a really sweet build to do and i could tune the truck easier. do you know what the dimensions are,roughly?

[Gumby]

5.9L Cummins Specs:
Displacement: 359 cubic inches, 5.9 liters
Configuration: Inline 6 cylinder
Firing Order: 1-5-3-6-2-4
Compression Ratio: 16.3:1, 17.2:1 (high output version)
Bore:4.02 inches
Stroke:4.72 inches
Injection: Direct Injection
• 1998.5 - 2002: Electronically controlled Bosch VP44 rotary injection pump.
• 2003-2007: Bosch high pressure common rail injection.
Aspiration: Holset turbocharger
Valvetrain: OHV, 4 valves per cylinder, solid lifter camshaft
Oil Capacity: 12 quarts
Weight: Approx. 1,150 lbs
*Horsepower: 235 - 325 HP @ 2,900 RPM
*Torque: 460 - 610 lb-ft @ 1,600 RPM
Governed Speed: 3,200 RPM
Years of Operation: 1998.5 - 2007

5.9L 12v Cummins Engine Dimensions
Length: 40.0 inches
Width: 24.9 inches
Height: 37.9 inches

I hope this helps you out




















































*Output varies with model year.



5.9L Cummins ISB Info

• ISB is the acronym for Interact System B.
• Assembled at the Cummins Columbus, Indiana assembly plant; the same city in which "Cummins Engine Company" was founded.
• All fuel systems on the 24v Cummins were electronically controlled, including the years that the it used a mechanical injection pump.
• Does not use glowplugs, but rather a heater grid mounted beneath the air horn.
• The VP44 injection pump failure rate was much higher than that of the P1700 that was used on the 6BT (12v).
• Used forged steel connecting rods for strength.
• The 5.9L ISB made Ward's 10 Best Engines list in 2004.
• Power output on automatic equipped Cummins powered Rams was slightly downrated for the manual transmission equipped Rams from 1998 - 2001.
• Production of the 5.9L Cummins ended completely in June 2009.





























5.9L Cummins Specs:




Displacement:


359 cubic inches, 5.9 liters




Configuration:


Inline 6 cylinder




Firing Order:


1-5-3-6-2-4




Compression Ratio:


16.3:1, 17.2:1 (high output version)




Bore:


4.02 inches




Stroke:


4.72 inches




Injection:


Direct Injection
• 1998.5 - 2002: Electronically controlled Bosch VP44 rotary injection pump.
• 2003-2007: Bosch high pressure common rail injection.




Aspiration:


Holset turbocharger




Valvetrain:


OHV, 4 valves per cylinder, solid lifter camshaft




Oil Capacity:


12 quarts




Weight:


Approx. 1,150 lbs




*Horsepower:


235 - 325 HP @ 2,900 RPM




*Torque:


460 - 610 lb-ft @ 1,600 RPM




Governed Speed:


3,200 RPM




Years of Operation:


1998.5 - 2007






















































*Output varies with model year.



5.9L Cummins ISB Info

• ISB is the acronym for Interact System B.
• Assembled at the Cummins Columbus, Indiana assembly plant; the same city in which "Cummins Engine Company" was founded.
• All fuel systems on the 24v Cummins were electronically controlled, including the years that the it used a mechanical injection pump.
• Does not use glowplugs, but rather a heater grid mounted beneath the air horn.
• The VP44 injection pump failure rate was much higher than that of the P1700 that was used on the 6BT (12v).
• Used forged steel connecting rods for strength.
• The 5.9L ISB made Ward's 10 Best Engines list in 2004.
• Power output on automatic equipped Cummins powered Rams was slightly downrated for the manual transmission equipped Rams from 1998 - 2001.
• Production of the 5.9L Cummins ended completely in June 2009.

[sgtpoliteness]

Speaking as a VW tech who works with our version of the CR diesels I can say that you have to be REALLY careful with the fuel you put in them. I believe Bosch makes the high pressure fuel pumps for all of them and the tolerances are insane.

We had a customer who got a little contaminated diesel and the pump (a nearly new one) s*** the bed right after #4 piston failed.