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Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:01 pm
by Nikkormat
tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:
Nikkormat wrote:Well dropped the crank off at Western Machine last night, and just got done picking up another 401! :D

The 401K grows...
ANOTHER one?!?! You... You...
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I need one for the next Jeep!

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:07 pm
by tedlovesjeeps71
This one??
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Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:12 pm
by Nikkormat
tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:This one??
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Heck no! Something more like a 78 or newer J20. For doing truck stuff.

Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:20 pm
by tedlovesjeeps71
But you could buy that (new one) strip off the (perfectly new) body and swap on a J truck cab and bed!!! Lol


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Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:23 pm
by Nikkormat
tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:But you could buy that (new one) strip off the (perfectly new) body and swap on a J truck cab and bed!!! Lol


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I have zero interest in a jk based pickup. A JK can only tow like 2000 pounds for a reason.

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:43 pm
by tedlovesjeeps71
Nikkormat wrote:
tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:But you could buy that (new one) strip off the (perfectly new) body and swap on a J truck cab and bed!!! Lol


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I have zero interest in a jk based pickup. A JK can only tow like 2000 pounds for a reason.
Swap in a 401, Dana 60s, and add airbags and it would. Bahaha!
Did you see the 401 waggy for sale on CL? It's white and rusty for $1000.00? Maybe you could add that to your hoard too? Image


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Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:44 pm
by tedlovesjeeps71
https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/6078290212.html

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Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:45 pm
by Nikkormat
tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:
Nikkormat wrote:
tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:But you could buy that (new one) strip off the (perfectly new) body and swap on a J truck cab and bed!!! Lol


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I have zero interest in a jk based pickup. A JK can only tow like 2000 pounds for a reason.
Swap in a 401, Dana 60s, and add airbags and it would. Bahaha!
Did you see the 401 waggy for sale on CL? It's white and rusty for $1000.00? Maybe you could add that to your hoard too? Image


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I'd be more interested in the Ramsey Hidden winch underneath it! I offered to buy it and he wasn't in the least bit interested.

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:48 pm
by tedlovesjeeps71
Dayuum... Good eye! I never noticed. Was it a 401?


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Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:44 pm
by az chip
^^^^Ted^^^ LOL

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:21 pm
by dodgerammit
Nikkormat wrote:
tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:
Nikkormat wrote:
I have zero interest in a jk based pickup. A JK can only tow like 2000 pounds for a reason.
Swap in a 401, Dana 60s, and add airbags and it would. Bahaha!
Did you see the 401 waggy for sale on CL? It's white and rusty for $1000.00? Maybe you could add that to your hoard too? Image


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I'd be more interested in the Ramsey Hidden winch underneath it! I offered to buy it and he wasn't in the least bit interested.

Hmm, I'm diggin the push bar. Some protection without the honking bumper, and ability to run Marchals. Too bad I don't live in CO. We could all pool our $$ and buy it. Everyone who pooled, gets whatever they put in for.

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:24 pm
by Nikkormat
Ok another little detail figured out, I've got an Oldsmobile V8 filler neck to cut down for a sealed oil cap that won't blow off! All I need now is a breather for one valve cover and a PCV for the other. I'm thinking that I might go with XJ stuff but if not I know I can use a fixed orifice LS pcv valve to achieve the same thing.

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 10:50 am
by REDONE
Nikkormat wrote: All I need now is a breather for one valve cover and a PCV for the other. I'm thinking that I might go with XJ stuff but if not I know I can use a fixed orifice LS pcv valve to achieve the same thing.
Wait, I thought you were working on a 401. What valve covers do you have with holes in them for PCV?

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:46 am
by Nikkormat
REDONE wrote:
Nikkormat wrote: All I need now is a breather for one valve cover and a PCV for the other. I'm thinking that I might go with XJ stuff but if not I know I can use a fixed orifice LS pcv valve to achieve the same thing.
Wait, I thought you were working on a 401. What valve covers do you have with holes in them for PCV?
Stock valve covers and a hole saw, trying to modernize the stock pcv system so it actually does something.

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:52 am
by REDONE
Ooooooooookaaaaaayyyyyyyy. I don't know how much "modernizing" a hose between the crankcase and air cleaner needs, but rock-on wit' cho' bad self. :D

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:56 am
by Nikkormat
REDONE wrote:Ooooooooookaaaaaayyyyyyyy. I don't know how much "modernizing" a hose between the crankcase and air cleaner needs, but rock-on wit' cho' bad self. :D
Does your pcv work? I've never had an AMC V8 pcv do diddly squat to actually evacuate the crank case.

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:01 pm
by REDONE
It doesn't "evacuate", it "ventilates", Positive (meaning more than ambient) crankcase ventilation. When the pressure inside the crankcase is higher than the pressure outside the crankcase, it "vents" to the aircleaner, so it can be combusted in the engine before being released to the atmosphere. Sealing the crankcase so it holds pressure would put extra forces on the seals and gaskets. If you draw a vacuum in your crankcase (evacuate), I don't think you're going to see any benefit, but might find some unexpected problems.

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:01 pm
by tedlovesjeeps71
Seems like a fairly easy conversion, no? Get a pcv valve (or two?), And the grommets that fit them. Plumb the hose(s) back into the air cleaner??


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Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:59 pm
by az chip
I have a hard enough time getting the stock stuff to work. Modifying would make me curl up in a corner and mumble.

Re: Increasingly simple, do almost anything Grand Wagoneer build.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:21 pm
by Nikkormat
To be clear I'm not sealing the crankcase. I want an oil filler cap that is held on by more than gravity (which the Oldsmobile filler neck achieves). And I want a fixed orifice PCV valve like is used in more modern systems (4.0's, 2004 and newer ls engines, etc...). And I want the breather to be routed either through a catch can and into the aircleaner or straight into the air cleaner from the valve cover. And I want the crank case air to enter the air cleaner behind the filter rather than blowing all over the front of it oiling it up unnecessarily. That way even if it passes a little oil it doesn't make my engine look as grimy and nasty.

A fixed orifice PCV allows more flow at idle, the inverse of the old school pcv. So the crank case actually gets evacuated instead of blowing out the vent at idle. A fixed orifice PCV valve can also allow for more ventilation at WOT if it's hooked up in such a way as to see vacuum from the carb venturis (kind of like a vacuum secondary). It uses the small diameter of the orifice to prevent backfires from igniting crank case gasses rather than a spring loaded check valve.