1964 wagoneer... om617 diesel

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Re: 1964 wagoneer... om617

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ImageGot the plate, crank adapter and flywheel bolted up to om617 today. Still need some AMC hardware for the fly and pressure plate, probably check the Trans fitment next weekend.Image
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Re: 1964 wagoneer... om617

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How does the balance work out with AMC meeting MB? Internal/external, flywheel...???


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Re: 1964 wagoneer... om617

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The Benz fly is supposed to be balanced to motor.


I'm going to static balance the amc, it should be neutral but who knows.

The Mercedes stuff wasn't maintained by p.o. so that's best I can do for now.
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Re: 1964 wagoneer... om617

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230ohc wrote:The Benz fly is supposed to be balanced to motor.


I'm going to static balance the amc, it should be neutral but who knows.

The Mercedes stuff wasn't maintained by p.o. so that's best I can do for now.
Couldn't you take the AMC flywheel to a clutch shop and have them balance it to MB specs?


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Re: 1964 wagoneer... om617

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Yes I could, but it would only be helpful if I knew without a doubt that the mbz flywheel had never been removed previously. I marked it when I pulled it, but there is no evidence that the position had been maintained during past removal. I know that it has been apart at least once, possibly twice or more who knows. In an event such as this a static balance is best case scenario.

The other options are to balance match flywheels, then locate in one of 12 positions
or have new flywheel balanced to the engine/ rotating assembly.

If static balance does not prove useful I'd much rather just find another donor, that hasn't been apart yet.
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Re: 1964 wagoneer... om617

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Got my starter, pressure plate bolts and still waiting for flywheel bolts. Haven't been able to get much done otherwise. Weather not permitting
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Re: 1964 wagoneer... om617

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Weather cleared up a bit today gonna pull the bell housing and check starter fitment to flywheel on the motor. Hopefullly.
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Got the bell housing off the Trans to fit check starter to motor with plate.Image
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Does it fit!!????!


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Had to do a bit off trimming. Pics coming.
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Re: 1964 wagoneer... om617

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Re: 1964 wagoneer... om617

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The kit hardware has a shoulder that needed a little help
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ImageThere was an obvious obstruction that needed trimming, Sawzall time.
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Re: 1964 wagoneer... om617

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Now THATs Ballsy! Cutting off a main bellhousing mount from the motor! No turning back now. Haha! Love this project. :)


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Starter didn't fit so I had to radius the plate a little.
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Re: 1964 wagoneer... om617

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That mount is part of the 2 piece oil pan. Could still be used in a Mercedes but would require new upper pan. New lower too, by the time I get finished with it. Gonna have to notch it to fit over the front diff.
1964 willys wagoneer
Om617 turbo diesel
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Dana 300
3.73 dana 27 front
3.73 dana 44 rear
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