Adventures in windshield installation

Stock FSJ Tech Area
User avatar

Topic author
ScottsMojo
Posts: 753
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:37 pm
Location: Casa de Ducati North
Contact:

Adventures in windshield installation

Post by ScottsMojo »

So I finally took time to install the new windshield and gasket in Schwag. Was for the most part uneventful and I took a different look at how the glass went back in. The windshield lip was in surprisingly good shape but I went ahead and cleaned it up and primed and painted it anyway. Maybe it will last another 39 years... :fsj:
Image
Image

My eldest son fitting the gasket onto the body
Image

I decided to install it dry, no soapy water solution. But one thing I did do was put a bead of 3M liquid butyl into each of the rubber channels prior to sliding the glass into position. It was a little more difficult being unlubricated but the butyl did aid a bit in the installation, and it was completely sealed both channels inside and out, and the POURING RAIN yesterday confirmed the quality of the seal.
Image

I've read alot about poor gasket to body fit but I didn't find this to be an issue for me. The gasket fit well, and the "new" glass (wasn't really new but the glass out of my Cherokee) was a full 1/16" thinner than the stocker which didn't seem to matter much either.
Water test!
Image

The trim went back on as expected, except for the top piece. I fussed with that for a half hour before remembering a little trick I learned years ago. Take a piece of string trimmer line or something similar and wedge it into the channel which holds the trim as such.
Image

The trim fell into place, it literally took 30 seconds to get it installed. Once on, just hold the trim firmly in place and pull the trimmer line out gently parallel or downward and there you go! Screw down the corners and you are done!
Image
Last edited by ScottsMojo on Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar

yjsquareguy
Posts: 106
Joined: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:16 am
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Contact:

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by yjsquareguy »

Great job and awesome pics.


Rob
1989 Grand Wagoneer AMC 360
2007 JK 2dr Rubicon. 3.8L
2005 Grand Cherokee. 5.7 Hemi
Rob
rob.fischer@matanzasjeepclub.com

2007 JK Rubicon
2005 Grand Cherokee 5.7L
1989 Grand Wagoneer
User avatar

jaber
Vendor
Posts: 3070
Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:24 pm
Location: Chino Valley, Az.

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by jaber »

Wonder if my wife will let me paint hers blue...

Nice job... :-bd :-bd
Jeff

'46 cj3a
'51 Willys p/u
'51 Willys Parkway Conversion
'74 CJ5
'75 J-20 Wrecker
'75 J-20 Cummins service truck
'77 J-10 p/u
'79 Cherokee
'88 Grand Wagoneer
http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/jeffaber/

serehill
Vendor
Posts: 1953
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:00 pm
Location: Mesquite Texas

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by serehill »

No doubt very cool.

Your window frame is a perfect specimen also. Did you use the original gasket.
1980 Honcho 258 4 speed mostly stock with 4 " lift.

WIP

You know the rude dude from IFSJA


1980 Cherokee wrangled & mangled
MSD complete system
Eddy intake
Holley 650
Comp cam 270H
4" Rusty's
Ramsey 12K winch
208
Built to drive not sit in the garage.


No longer strangled. I didn't build it for anyone else.
If you can't improve it why waste your time?
User avatar

Topic author
ScottsMojo
Posts: 753
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:37 pm
Location: Casa de Ducati North
Contact:

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by ScottsMojo »

yjsquareguy wrote:Great job and awesome pics.


Rob
1989 Grand Wagoneer AMC 360
2007 JK 2dr Rubicon. 3.8L
2005 Grand Cherokee. 5.7 Hemi
Thanks! It was a long time coming, 39 year old rubber tends to be stiff and leaky...
User avatar

Topic author
ScottsMojo
Posts: 753
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:37 pm
Location: Casa de Ducati North
Contact:

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by ScottsMojo »

jaber wrote:Wonder if my wife will let me paint hers blue...

Nice job... :-bd :-bd
Don't paint it blue. Paint it Ducati Superbike Red! :fsj:

(hint of things to come...)
User avatar

Topic author
ScottsMojo
Posts: 753
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:37 pm
Location: Casa de Ducati North
Contact:

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by ScottsMojo »

serehill wrote:No doubt very cool.

Your window frame is a perfect specimen also. Did you use the original gasket.
Thanks! I was really worried that the lip would be toast, but it was in really good shape. Luke took the wire wheel to it, cleaned it up inside and out and we sprayed some primer and paint to hopefully give it more life. I used a new gasket, I thought from BJ's but my receipts don't support that so it prolly came from TGW. It fit fine.
User avatar

fulsizjeep
Moderator
Posts: 5012
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:21 am
Location: Fruitville, FL
Contact:

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by fulsizjeep »

Interesting timing for this. We had new glass put in Phoebe last Friday. The top trim was never fully seated since the body swap and resurrection and looked pretty much the same when we picked her up. It started to blow off this morning at highway speed and I grabbed it before it flew away. Will see if this weed-eater line trick helps. It was new gasket 18 months ago. Thanks!
Flint Boardman
88 GW, 401/727/208, 5" lift, D44s/4.10s/locked up, 35s
https://jubileejeeps.org/quadratrac
User avatar

TUDrewser
Posts: 1306
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:40 pm
Location: Mesa, AZ

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by TUDrewser »

I'm in the process of the same thing. Spent the weekend grinding away rust, priming and painting the window frame for a new window. However, I don't have the guts to install myself, so I'm paying the $50 to have Safelite do it. They're at least sending one of their "older vehicle specialists" to do it, and I've got some recourse if it starts leaking, which would be pretty much guaranteed if I did it myself ;-)
1990 GW "saved by Jerry" edition
will e wrote:I guess life is better if you are not moving too fast.
User avatar

Topic author
ScottsMojo
Posts: 753
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:37 pm
Location: Casa de Ducati North
Contact:

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by ScottsMojo »

fulsizjeep wrote:Interesting timing for this. We had new glass put in Phoebe last Friday. The top trim was never fully seated since the body swap and resurrection and looked pretty much the same when we picked her up. It started to blow off this morning at highway speed and I grabbed it before it flew away. Will see if this weed-eater line trick helps. It was new gasket 18 months ago. Thanks!
It worked great for me Flint. Unfortunately I was covered in butyl while installing the trim so I didn't get a pic, only the one I took with the trimmer line in the old seal.
TUDrewser wrote:I'm in the process of the same thing. Spent the weekend grinding away rust, priming and painting the window frame for a new window. However, I don't have the guts to install myself, so I'm paying the $50 to have Safelite do it. They're at least sending one of their "older vehicle specialists" to do it, and I've got some recourse if it starts leaking, which would be pretty much guaranteed if I did it myself ;-)
$50 is not bad at all to have it installed, I never thought about doing that...
User avatar

TUDrewser
Posts: 1306
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:40 pm
Location: Mesa, AZ

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by TUDrewser »

ScottsMojo wrote:
$50 is not bad at all to have it installed, I never thought about doing that...
Well, I should add that it was $220, but that included the windshield and new rubber seal...so I approximated the labor a bit ;-) Next one is on my insurance. Ha.
1990 GW "saved by Jerry" edition
will e wrote:I guess life is better if you are not moving too fast.
User avatar

Topic author
ScottsMojo
Posts: 753
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:37 pm
Location: Casa de Ducati North
Contact:

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by ScottsMojo »

TUDrewser wrote:
ScottsMojo wrote:
$50 is not bad at all to have it installed, I never thought about doing that...
Well, I should add that it was $220, but that included the windshield and new rubber seal...so I approximated the labor a bit ;-) Next one is on my insurance. Ha.
I paid $400 for my windshield but it came with a complete '74 NT Cherokee parts rig... :fsj:
User avatar

TUDrewser
Posts: 1306
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:40 pm
Location: Mesa, AZ

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by TUDrewser »

Install guy just left. Considering he was here for 2 1/2 hours, an hour of which was just getting the top trim on, I think I got my money worth.
1990 GW "saved by Jerry" edition
will e wrote:I guess life is better if you are not moving too fast.
User avatar

Topic author
ScottsMojo
Posts: 753
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:37 pm
Location: Casa de Ducati North
Contact:

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by ScottsMojo »

TUDrewser wrote:Install guy just left. Considering he was here for 2 1/2 hours, an hour of which was just getting the top trim on, I think I got my money worth.
Shoulda read my complete post... Woulda saved about 88 minutes of your day! :fsj:
User avatar

TUDrewser
Posts: 1306
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:40 pm
Location: Mesa, AZ

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by TUDrewser »

ScottsMojo wrote:
TUDrewser wrote:Install guy just left. Considering he was here for 2 1/2 hours, an hour of which was just getting the top trim on, I think I got my money worth.
Shoulda read my complete post... Woulda saved about 88 minutes of your day! :fsj:
Actually, because of your post I ended up giving him some trimmer line to use, and I think it is finally how he did it. But he was pulling it up toward the top, and I expected it to be pulled out the bottom...which way is it? He ended up having his supervisor come help, and this was the guy who specializes in old cars. He knew what needed to be done, just said the new rubber was being really stiff and making it difficult. Glad I wasn't paying by the hour.

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2
1990 GW "saved by Jerry" edition
will e wrote:I guess life is better if you are not moving too fast.
User avatar

Topic author
ScottsMojo
Posts: 753
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:37 pm
Location: Casa de Ducati North
Contact:

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by ScottsMojo »

TUDrewser wrote:
ScottsMojo wrote:
TUDrewser wrote:Install guy just left. Considering he was here for 2 1/2 hours, an hour of which was just getting the top trim on, I think I got my money worth.
Shoulda read my complete post... Woulda saved about 88 minutes of your day! :fsj:
Actually, because of your post I ended up giving him some trimmer line to use, and I think it is finally how he did it. But he was pulling it up toward the top, and I expected it to be pulled out the bottom...which way is it? He ended up having his supervisor come help, and this was the guy who specializes in old cars. He knew what needed to be done, just said the new rubber was being really stiff and making it difficult. Glad I wasn't paying by the hour.

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2
Oh wow, I didn't think about that! I pulled it out parallel to the window. I should have mentioned that, I will edit that post.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
User avatar

Nutz-n-Bolts
Posts: 313
Joined: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:06 pm
Location: Strattanville,PA

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by Nutz-n-Bolts »

I know I’m stretching the limits of resurrecting old threads, but I've never been much for rules. ;) I need to get my glass back in, and just had a few questions.

1. I'm guessing you put the rubber on the truck first then put in the glass?

2. How big of a butyl bead did you use?

3. Was one tube of butyl enough? (10oz) How much was left. I need to put in the back glass on my J10 too and am wondering if one 10 oz tube will do both.
Lover of all Old Iron

60-79 CJ5 The best parts from several years combined to make one tough ALL JEEP CJ
81 J10 Pickup My newest acquisition undergoing a complete restoration
User avatar

jaber
Vendor
Posts: 3070
Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:24 pm
Location: Chino Valley, Az.

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by jaber »

I swapped a rear slider into my J-20 with a used rubber, no glue, and it has not leaked in 3 years... ;)
Jeff

'46 cj3a
'51 Willys p/u
'51 Willys Parkway Conversion
'74 CJ5
'75 J-20 Wrecker
'75 J-20 Cummins service truck
'77 J-10 p/u
'79 Cherokee
'88 Grand Wagoneer
http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/jeffaber/
User avatar

jsinajeep
Posts: 1850
Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:25 pm
Location: Brownsburg Indiana

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by jsinajeep »

jaber wrote:I swapped a rear slider into my J-20 with a used rubber, no glue, and it has not leaked in 3 years... ;)
Yep but it don't rain here in Arizona :D
User avatar

jaber
Vendor
Posts: 3070
Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:24 pm
Location: Chino Valley, Az.

Re: Adventures in windshield installation

Post by jaber »

jsinajeep wrote:
jaber wrote:I swapped a rear slider into my J-20 with a used rubber, no glue, and it has not leaked in 3 years... ;)
Yep but it don't rain here in Arizona :D
LOL, take my fun away... :(
Jeff

'46 cj3a
'51 Willys p/u
'51 Willys Parkway Conversion
'74 CJ5
'75 J-20 Wrecker
'75 J-20 Cummins service truck
'77 J-10 p/u
'79 Cherokee
'88 Grand Wagoneer
http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh14/jeffaber/
Post Reply