1983 wagoneer with saggy springs max tire size?

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Then youd be shocked to learn my drivers side shock is using a little 10mm bolt.. Someone broke the original bolt probly from trying to take it iff.. and put a sleeve in there and put a tiny ass bolt on it.. abd its holding ny load carrying shock just fine..

Youre too cautious if you ask me... That or maybe because i can weld it doesnt bother me one bit.. if it break ill weld it back on.. But so far nothing is bent cracked or broken. And its been over a year now.

Both coil shocks only support 500 lbs together... 250 lbs each.. Thats nothing.. i could compress them by leaning down on it.
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candymancan wrote:Then youd be shocked to learn my drivers side shock is using a little 10mm bolt.. Someone broke the original bolt probly from trying to take it iff.. and put a sleeve in there and put a tiny ass bolt on it.. abd its holding ny load carrying shock just fine..

Youre too cautious if you ask me... That or maybe because i can weld it doesnt bother me one bit.. if it break ill weld it back on.. But so far nothing is bent cracked or broken. And its been over a year now.

Both coil shocks only support 500 lbs together... 250 lbs each.. Thats nothing.. i could compress them by leaning down on it.
Nope, not surprised. Nope, not too caution. I'm just intelligent. ;)


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Yes donald trump said the same thing. and hes as dumb as a sack of potatos.. and i even voted for him lol.
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candymancan wrote:Yes donald trump said the same thing. and hes as dumb as a sack of potatos.. and i even voted for him lol.
I rest my case.
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Oh so you admit being as dumb as a sack of potatos.. Ok thanks for admitting it
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candymancan wrote:Oh so you admit being as dumb as a sack of potatos.. Ok thanks for admitting it
You're 12, aren't you? Seriously, you communicate as if you have the education of a third grader. That's not an insult, it's an observation.

As to my acknowledging safety: I won't be the one to lose control of my vehicle because something stupid I did broke and possibly killed someone. If you want to continue doing questionable things on your own vehicle, that's wonderful. Promoting it on a public forum is something else completely.

Yes, they sell load bearing shocks; in the best of conditions they might even work. On old vehicles with rusty parts and worn out everything, they're less than a band-aid; they're a liability. Use at your own risk.


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Also, it's "potatoes," not "potatos."


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I see, going after me for a spelling error.. typical lol. I could have predicted that one. Let me toss that back at you.
Cecil14 wrote:
candymancan wrote:Then youd be shocked to learn my drivers side shock is using a little 10mm bolt.. Someone broke the original bolt probly from trying to take it iff.. and put a sleeve in there and put a tiny ass bolt on it.. abd its holding ny load carrying shock just fine..

Youre too cautious if you ask me... That or maybe because i can weld it doesnt bother me one bit.. if it break ill weld it back on.. But so far nothing is bent cracked or broken. And its been over a year now.

Both coil shocks only support 500 lbs together... 250 lbs each.. Thats nothing.. i could compress them by leaning down on it.
Nope, not surprised. Nope, not too caution. I'm just intelligent. ;)


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Not too "cautious"



Ill promote whatever the hell i want, it isnt illegal to use load carrying shocks, nor is it against forum rules. If you want to get technical , lifting a vehicle itself isnt considered safe either yet you have tons of people doing it. Why dont you go on all the other forums including this one and police that as well.
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Mine is actually a grammatical error (and clearly an auto-correct one at that, someday I'll learn not to post from my phone), not a spelling error. For the record.

Generally any lift "kit" involves a great deal of engineering, making said lift as safe as possible. More importantly, however, is that they ALWAYS include an acknowledgement of the possible safety implications such as the one I have been posting all along. At no point did I tell you not to use them; if you actually read my posts I said "It's wonderful that people are making it work, but it is NOT a good solution." I have seen over and over again people pointing out safety problems with home built lifts. If you've read this, or any other decent forum, you've seen them as well.

The difference between us here, and I suspect the reason you seem to have so much animosity toward me specifically, is that you clearly have ZERO regard for anyone's safety. That bothers me more than a little, I have to say.

As for the forum rules, you may want to read them before you reference them. Here's the link for your convenience: http://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/viewtop ... =10&t=1947

You continually ride the line on several of them, breaking them more than once that I've noticed:

4: Topics or posts containing harsh language are not allowed. This includes some four letter words. There is a word filter which will catch some of them. The general rule is that if it can be said on broadcast TV, its ok to say here.

6: Personal attacks will not be tolerated. Period.

There's no rule specifically about pushing dangerous and unsafe mods, though I would guess that falls under "common sense."

For my part, I've done more than enough ruining this thread. My apologies to the OP, I hope you got the info you really needed out of it before things went downhill.


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I just wanted to let the forum know that I got some cheap-o new mud tires, by a brand called westlake and they were 100$each...They are 31x10.5x15 and they fit great! I did do a 2" add a leaf kit, and everything working very well, thanks for all the help! The 1983 wagoneer might have fit 32", but it would have been very close at the front of the rear fender as everyone has said, so I hope this helps someone...
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edognight wrote:I just wanted to let the forum know that I got some cheap-o new mud tires, by a brand called westlake and they were 100$each...They are 31x10.5x15 and they fit great! I did do a 2" add a leaf kit, and everything working very well, thanks for all the help! The 1983 wagoneer might have fit 32", but it would have been very close at the front of the rear fender as everyone has said, so I hope this helps someone...
Just curious what your gears are. I have 3.31 gears on my Cherokee. I could have fit 35's easy but I installed 33's because of gearing.
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Lumpskie wrote:I think you could clear 30x9.5" tires ok. Here's a picture of mine, when I had a sagged suspension, with the rear tire stuffed. (30x9.5)

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Here's another with the Alcans on. You can see a little better how a 30" stuffs:

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Thats still one of the sexiest rides ive seen..
Freaking gorgeous.

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Cheapthrills wrote:Thats still one of the sexiest rides ive seen..
Freaking gorgeous.

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Thank you sir!
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