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Quarter glass

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I have never removed quartee glass from a vehicle, whats the best way to do it on a 2 dr cherokee? Is repro weather stripoing available?

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You're buying new gaskets, right?
Just use a sharp (several probably) razor knife and cut off one side of the gasket. Then gently push the window through towards the non-cut side.


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Are you talking about the side windows aft of the doors? If yes, I have pulled 2 sets from a 74 and 76 Cherokee 2 door. They had small screws inside the Jeep that hold the aluminum window frames to the body. If I remember right, the screw heads are behind part of the window frame gasket. Once the screws are removed I am pretty sure I pushed them out of the opening from inside to the outside. I have never heard of replacement seals for these. Maybe they are out there some where though.
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fulsizjeep wrote:I have never heard of replacement seals for these. Maybe they are out there some where though.
Nor surprised. Image OP, please disregard my advice!!! I do t want to be to blame for telling you to do something that causes a nightmare down the road!!
Thanks FSJ for clarifying!

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tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:You're buying new gaskets, right?
Just use a sharp (several probably) razor knife and cut off one side of the gasket. Then gently push the window through towards the non-cut side.


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Can you buy new gaskets?

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musicmaster wrote:
tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:You're buying new gaskets, right?
Just use a sharp (several probably) razor knife and cut off one side of the gasket. Then gently push the window through towards the non-cut side.


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Can you buy new gaskets?

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Sounds like no... I've never looked into it myself.


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tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:
musicmaster wrote:
tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:You're buying new gaskets, right?
Just use a sharp (several probably) razor knife and cut off one side of the gasket. Then gently push the window through towards the non-cut side.


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Can you buy new gaskets?

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Sounds like no... I've never looked into it myself.


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Apoerently you can buy them for 4 doors.... But not 2 door

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Good call! Thanks for clarifying that.


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A while back I was searching for quarter window gaskets for my Chief and found some late 60s K5 Blazer gaskets with the plastic-chrome trim that seemed to be close. I didn't order them but it may be worth a shot to look in that direction.
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No, no one makes replacement gaskets. To remove mine, and all the others I have robbed windows/gaskets out of, there were no screws holding anything in. Just use a hard plastic pry bar to gently pry the gasket from the inside out. Work your way around while someone supports the window from outside and it eventually pops out. Be patient and it will all come out fine and you can reuse your gasket.
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HeavyMetalThunder_81 wrote:No, no one makes replacement gaskets. To remove mine, and all the others I have robbed windows/gaskets out of, there were no screws holding anything in. Just use a hard plastic pry bar to gently pry the gasket from the inside out. Work your way around while someone supports the window from outside and it eventually pops out. Be patient and it will all come out fine and you can reuse your gasket.
Thanks. I thought about piano wire too. Is it hard to reinstall?

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HeavyMetalThunder_81 wrote:No, no one makes replacement gaskets. To remove mine, and all the others I have robbed windows/gaskets out of, there were no screws holding anything in. Just use a hard plastic pry bar to gently pry the gasket from the inside out. Work your way around while someone supports the window from outside and it eventually pops out. Be patient and it will all come out fine and you can reuse your gasket.
I thought maybe newer 2 doors did not use the screws. So did you find there is two different gaskets used depending on the year? I have noticed the 80's 2 doors gaskets are a bit different. Maybe the whole frame? I have never taken one of those apart though.
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musicmaster wrote: Thanks. I thought about piano wire too. Is it hard to reinstall?

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If they are dry and very hard they will be difficult. Maybe you can have some luck soaking them in something for a week or so to make them a little flexible again??
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I found that wound guitar strings are great for cutting windshield and quarter glass gaskets. Acoustic guitar D or A strings work the best as long as you take your time and not overheat the string.
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Tatsadasayago wrote:I found that wound guitar strings are great for cutting windshield and quarter glass gaskets. Acoustic guitar D or A strings work the best as long as you take your time and not overheat the string.
What about a low E? I have a few strings laying around.

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musicmaster wrote:
Tatsadasayago wrote:I found that wound guitar strings are great for cutting windshield and quarter glass gaskets. Acoustic guitar D or A strings work the best as long as you take your time and not overheat the string.
What about a low E? I have a few strings laying around.

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I've used the E with some success but they tend to chew the glass more than the smaller strings. I ended up cutting a 1/4" off the bottom corner and couldn't feel or hear it. I think the D and A work so well because the tighter windings still cut but aren't as aggressive.
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fulsizjeep wrote:I thought maybe newer 2 doors did not use the screws. So did you find there is two different gaskets used depending on the year? I have noticed the 80's 2 doors gaskets are a bit different. Maybe the whole frame? I have never taken one of those apart though.
The only difference I've heard is the difference in gaskets between the two piece window (vent style) and single piece window.
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Hard part isnt getting the quarter panel window out.. its getting it back in with sealant on the rubber seal.. gets very messy and its hard to flap the seal outward.. i had to use a screwdriver to flip the seal out when putting it back in.. was a pita
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candymancan wrote:Hard part isnt getting the quarter panel window out.. its getting it back in with sealant on the rubber seal.. gets very messy and its hard to flap the seal outward.. i had to use a screwdriver to flip the seal out when putting it back in.. was a pita
Maybe ill just leave it in and mask off the windows when i paint it

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candymancan wrote:Hard part isnt getting the quarter panel window out.. its getting it back in with sealant on the rubber seal.. gets very messy and its hard to flap the seal outward.. i had to use a screwdriver to flip the seal out when putting it back in.. was a pita
to get the rubber seal back on, let the seal cook under the windshield of another vehicle on a sunny day for about 2hrs... the gasket will be extremely compliant, it is still a 2 person job, but very easy. Start from the lower rear on the wagoneer, but the chero glass has roundish corners so it is easy(er)

I have done 3 corner glass on 2 waggys in the last 5 years. Don't bother leaving the gasket in the sun, it is not hot enough, the hairdryer trick is a joke...
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