Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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Ok, had this issue for a bit and now I’m annoyed enough to do something.
When starting, starter stays engaged.
Today, didn’t even spin over (no click, nothing, but all other electrical from fuel pump to radio working) but everything else worked. Came back later, fired right up like nothing happened.

The starter often stays engaged, the not starting has been intermittent on way that occurs.

Where and how to isolate issue?
Erik
1989 GW, 31s on rancho front and general spring rear
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Re: Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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Year, model, equipment would be helpful. Good idea to put that in your sig so it's always present.
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Re: Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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The best year? 1989
Pretty stock
Erik
1989 GW, 31s on rancho front and general spring rear

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Re: Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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Time for a new starter.
Ron

2005 KJ, Hit-n-Run, 2am 6-17-2012, Totaled. :mad:
1977 SJ J10, 4v360, T18, D20, 37x14s, SOA & SF on tons, still ugly.
1978 SJ Wagoneer, 4v360, QT, 33x12.5s, lift by Sawzall :-bd NOT Running :(
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Re: Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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KJ Ryu wrote:Time for a new starter.
Not ignition switch?
Erik
1989 GW, 31s on rancho front and general spring rear

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Re: Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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next time the starter stays on, crawl with a BFH and wack the starter a little bit, to see if it disengages.... probably new starter, been there done it... and don't get a vatozone starter...
Michel
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Re: Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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Xplitive wrote:
KJ Ryu wrote:Time for a new starter.
Not ignition switch?
Mine was the starter when it had the symptoms that you described. Like letank said above, try whacking the starter when it stays engaged.
Ron

2005 KJ, Hit-n-Run, 2am 6-17-2012, Totaled. :mad:
1977 SJ J10, 4v360, T18, D20, 37x14s, SOA & SF on tons, still ugly.
1978 SJ Wagoneer, 4v360, QT, 33x12.5s, lift by Sawzall :-bd NOT Running :(
1977 SJ J10, SniperEFI 401, QT, D44s, 31X10.5s :fsj:
2006 KJ
Mars wrote:One man's trans leak is another's penetrating oil :D

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Re: Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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Xplitive wrote:
KJ Ryu wrote:Time for a new starter.
Not ignition switch?
Mine was the starter when it had the symptoms that you described. Like letank said above, try whacking the starter when it stays engaged.
Ron

2005 KJ, Hit-n-Run, 2am 6-17-2012, Totaled. :mad:
1977 SJ J10, 4v360, T18, D20, 37x14s, SOA & SF on tons, still ugly.
1978 SJ Wagoneer, 4v360, QT, 33x12.5s, lift by Sawzall :-bd NOT Running :(
1977 SJ J10, SniperEFI 401, QT, D44s, 31X10.5s :fsj:
2006 KJ
Mars wrote:One man's trans leak is another's penetrating oil :D

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Re: Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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Good to know, thanks.
Looking at the Mitsubishi starter.. just because..I think it might be made in Japan and not China.
Erik
1989 GW, 31s on rancho front and general spring rear

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I think all mitsubishi starters are made in Japan... hell i think all ZJ grand cherokees used mitsubishi starters ? Maybe i wrong but i know the starters were made in japan
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Re: Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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I don´t mean to hijack this thread but I'm having a similar problem except it doesn't stay engaged, I switch the key to run, it starts, then I hear a grinding that lasts less than a second right after the engine starts, I think it's dissengaging too slowly and it catches on the flywheel as the bendix retracts, would a couple of hits fix this or maybe dismounting>remounting it?. It started happening today as I was trying to diagnose a problem with the ignition system, I used the screwdriver on solenoid trick to start it from the engine bay, I didn't have a good grip on the screwdriver and the first bump it just spun a bit, then I properly started it and this problem surfaced.

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Re: Starter stays engaged, intermittent start

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Probably chewed up the bendix gear a small amount. Might correct itself but couldn't hurt to pull the starter and take a look.
Ron

2005 KJ, Hit-n-Run, 2am 6-17-2012, Totaled. :mad:
1977 SJ J10, 4v360, T18, D20, 37x14s, SOA & SF on tons, still ugly.
1978 SJ Wagoneer, 4v360, QT, 33x12.5s, lift by Sawzall :-bd NOT Running :(
1977 SJ J10, SniperEFI 401, QT, D44s, 31X10.5s :fsj:
2006 KJ
Mars wrote:One man's trans leak is another's penetrating oil :D
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